I’m thinking about taking White Crane Karate and was wondering how much difference there might be between White Crane Karate and White Crane Kungfu and what the differences might be if any. Thanks, William
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From what I have seen Goju Ryu comes closest but even that is very far away.
In Fact the two do not correlate. The essence of White crane is in understanding and developing Jings, Karate does not do this to such depth, no where near in fact…Karate has become unto its own sharing very little to its mother style.
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Shi Chan Long
Thank you. The style I’m interesred in is Hakutsuru Shorin-ryu also known as Matsumura Orthodox. They seem to refer alot to China from what little I know. I sat in on a class and was impressed, very fast like Wingchun. I’ve read that it’s a cousin of Wingchun. Anyway I was just wondering if you might know of this style of White Crane Karate. I was also told it was closer to Wingchun than Shotokan. Thanks again, William
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Is it true that one of the styles that made wingchun was southern white crane.
I really wont it increase my kicking aresnal I think that maybe I should study the foot moves of white crane. does white crane have any kicks when doesnt have.
Andre Lashley
Which style of white crane are u talking about? I once found a website which did mention white crane in wing chun but i seriously doubt that wing chun is partly based on white crane.
i have heard how there was a dispute in hk between wing chun and pak hok (white crane) but thats another story…
as for white cranes kicks…yes there are many and they look quite different from wing chun kicks
at least from my low experience with the style.
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Yes, fujian white crane (FWC) is believed by major sources to be the root of wing chun (WC)…from what I have seen in WC and from my limited knowledge of FWC (the road is long, but I keep walking 
), it is obvious…however many FWC exponents belive WC is a washed down version…it is their opinion, based mainly on the fact that FWC is more complex…
Anyway, for the kicks, beware, there aren’t that many kicks in fujian white crane (watch out, do not confuse fujian white crane with tibetan white crane, lots of people do not clearly see the difference and can be mislead).
The most used one is ding tui, a kick from the leading foot given with the ball of the foot to the opponent’s leg, never higher than the knee: you bring the back leg towards the front one and stomp on the ground with it while at the same time kicking straight with the lead leg (ankle, shin, knee, not higher). The back leg’s stomp gives power to the kick (you have to really coordonate it though, and learn to transfer the energy to the kick) and destabilizes the opponent…you can kick a post or a bag laid on the ground…do it quick, snap, penetrate, then back to guard without changing the lead leg…
Another one that is used is a mini roundhouse to the side of the knee, again with the ball of the foot, in a very whipping motion…once again, practice launching it without warning from the front leg…
Surprisingly, there are jumping kicks in FWC too, but they are used in a unique way: you never kick above the sternum…most of the jump kicks used strike the groin, or knee, and are double jump kicks to keep the pressure and make your own targets less easy to reach.
Hence you can find a double jumped slap kick with both kicks aimed at the groin either on place or jumping forward to close the gap (usually the back leg kicks first here).
You have many variations of it: jump, front kick with tip of toes from the back leg then slap to the groin, land in original position…or slap first then front, or two fronts, or one to the groin and the second to the knee…any variation…
Another one is a single jumped slap kick to the groin from the lead leg starting from the guard position: you are on position, jump without warning and slap with the lead leg while landing in the same position. Fast and unpredictable.
Another one “8 steps to chase the cicada”: you jump high, bring in both legs, but strike only on the way down, with a side cut to the knee…you can often follow with a sweep if needed…
You can also find a stomp kick (stomp on the knee with feet open 45 degrees, or file down the shin while you strike with upper weapons).
Hope that gave you some good ideas for training!!
I study some southern snake and crane(5 animals) and you can easily adapt stuff to wing chun. My southern crane has short wc like hand techniques and some long hooks punches and straight punches. we do do a jumping front kick but its mostly hands. Our snake has high front kicks to rear leg behind the back hop kicks. You might want to look at some of the other southern shaolin animals for kicks. I think the tiger tail side thrust kick is a good kick to have. The thing I’ve noticed about some WC people is their lack of long range techniques and lack of stamina. They can be easy to dance arround and out manuver. Hope that helps.
hmmm i think i should clarify my post
i was referring to wing chun not being based upon pak hok kuen of lama origins
i think the article may have been talking about the other white crane style
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White crane?
I was just curious if anyone knows the names of all 18 Fukien crane katas… I know that
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white crane flips the wings
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White crane circles the wings
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white crane flips the legs
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2 birds fightings
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has no name
More White Crane
Apparently a lot of people have been looking at the other crane post so I may as well give you all something to quote back on… hmm…
Any good crane training excersizes?
favorite crane katas…?
Katas are from karate so i’m not sure you’ll be getting any responses here.
forms…
my sincerest apologies… It was still early in the morning and sometimes my early Tae Kwan Do beginning still tangle my memory.
Hey Shaolin-Do,
The Lee Koon Hung lineage of Choy Lay Fut has a Crane Form. You can view a video clip of it here (the picture quality is not that great):
http://hpccss.net/kevinchan/movie/pastmov4.wmv
If you watch some Bruce Lee documentaries, you’ll probably see his screen test in America. In this he demonstrates some Crane form. I don’t know what it is, but I realized he used that same (or similar) sequence in Return of the Dragon, right before he kicked the fat Italian guy’s back.
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interesting… thx for the link.
does anyone have a link to the list of all 18 crane forms? (fukien)
Shaolin-Do :
What lineage are the forms you mentioned from?
Shaolin Do :
Firstly there are a great many more forms than 18. It all depends on the lineage or style of Fukien White Crane you have studied.
Please give us an example of the lineage or style of your White Crane?
If your interested in Crane-Fist, please visit the KOBGK Paihequan Wuyangkuan International Web Site at:
yeah… GM Sin kinda keeps that all vague to us… I know it came from the Fukien province… the particular style we learn has 18 empty hand forms… I honestly couldnt tell you which particular style it is however… 
yutyeesam,
that was a nice form, good stuff, anymore vids you can share?
btw that kicking combination you mentioned, if im thinking of the same one, is in some older modern wushu forms(an older changchuan form if i remeber correctly)
thanks
(nice sig btw, krishnamurti is an interesting thinker to say the least)
Yeah, I really liked that clip. The Bruce Lee footage was pretty cool to, and I remember thinking it was longfist, as it was just like what I did in some of my forms(modern).
Tsuruken, just add a .com to SD’s name and that’ll take ya to his orgs website.
As for that clip, was it a White Crane form or a crane form unique to CLF?
The CLF Crane form (Vid clip) is not typical of the Fukien art which is less acrobatic and not as long-ranged in technique execution.
From looking over the “Shaolin-Do” web site and while not trying to be controversial or to cause any offence, the art looks modern in origin and eclectic in style.