If you just stand there all knock kneed you can not withstand a kick to the groin. It just sounds so silly to think otherwise. With the toe in stance, you also have to have your knees bent and hips forward. All you have to do is shift sightly and even though a kick may land solidly it will not be a groin shot. It isn’t about not getting hit or kicked, but about damage control. You can not expect to fight without receiving some punishment. The trick is to minimumize the damage and survive. The pigeon toes stance is the most natural stance you can take. If it hurts you are doing it all wrong. It has to be comfortable or you will abandon it as soon as the fight starts. By shifting the weight to the rear foot as you shift side to side it will require less foot movement, and will maintain your balance and stability.
If you give it some serious thought you will realize that There is good reason for this pigeon toed stance. It is not just for training. Why would it be so? It is an honest fighting stance that was developed from trial and error.
[QUOTE=woodendumby;797575]With just a couple months training in WC, i’m full of Qs…and even though I ask in class when I can, the opinions of others here would be appriciated.
right now i'm just wondering ....what's up with the weird pigeon toed stance ? Honestly I feel like ( in all my great wisdom..lol ) that these techniques would work just as well in a more traditional stance, or at least with the feet pointed forward rather than inward. not to mention that my knee is shot from a bad TKD kick ( in which my pivot foot did'nt pivot ).
any thoughts on this ? thanks guys....[/QUOTE]
to answer you directly, that stance was use to keep your balance if you’re standing on a narrow boat. thats where the ancient WC practice their drills during their travel from northern china going south.
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;798555]If you just stand there all knock kneed you can not withstand a kick to the groin. It just sounds so silly to think otherwise. With the toe in stance, you also have to have your knees bent and hips forward. All you have to do is shift sightly and even though a kick may land solidly it will not be a groin shot. It isn’t about not getting hit or kicked, but about damage control. You can not expect to fight without receiving some punishment. The trick is to minimumize the damage and survive. The pigeon toes stance is the most natural stance you can take. If it hurts you are doing it all wrong. It has to be comfortable or you will abandon it as soon as the fight starts. By shifting the weight to the rear foot as you shift side to side it will require less foot movement, and will maintain your balance and stability.
If you give it some serious thought you will realize that There is good reason for this pigeon toed stance. It is not just for training. Why would it be so? It is an honest fighting stance that was developed from trial and error.[/QUOTE]
you’re right, but its not use for actual fighting, just for practising basic arm drills.
its only for beginners in WC.
Another angle.
Certain types of eqipment at the gym lock off parts of your body to isolate others parts for training. Some Bicep curl eqipment comes to mind…
IMO YGKYM serves this very purpose for beginners. The stance locks you in one direction and isolates the upper body for training the actions contained in SLT.
You tend to be all arms - for a reason !
With good instruction you should develope good energy in the shoulder elbow and wrist as well as the obvious muscle groups which then later, when added to a dynamic horse with turning and stepping… increases your base power for actions.
Its very much for newbie’s.
DREW