hey all you mantis people. i just wanted to know what the differences in 8 step and 7 star are. i’m interested in all cma and i barely know anything about the mantis styles so anything would be helpful. what other mantis styles are there and how are they as well? thanks guys.
the difference
the difference in the two systems are mainly footwork. the fouder of 8step Chiang Hua long reailized that the monkey footwork in 7* used a lot of energy to excecute,also he realized that as he aged he would be less agile and require more of a smoother less vigerous footwork. So he changed the footwork to resemble more of a bagua type of step, smoother more angular stepping thus utilizing less energy and the ability to side step an attack and move more efficiently in and out of the opponents range. other masters in our system have also added things to the system such as suai chiao, joint locking and tai chi… for a better explination and full history of 8 step please visit our site! thank you
Other mantis styles
Here is a decent website that goes over various mantis styles (northern and southern), their histories, and some characteristics of each.
how extensive is the grappling/joint lock/throwing technique in seven star?
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7 Star Mantis
Seven Star has a wide variety of Joint Locks, and Throws.
There is a Mantis Seminar coming up in Rochester NY, On August 4th. Sifu Raymond Fogg will be teaching 7 Star Mantis Forms,and Mantis Fighting Principles (8 Hard, 12 Soft Ways).
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i would like to attend to see some of the differences between 8 step and 7 star first hand…unfortunatle i cant make that…are there any more seminars coming up in the near future?
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are there seminars in los angeles or anything? see, i tried learning 8 step before but there weren’t any schools there. 
hey and thanks guys for the info.
7 Star Seminars
Our school does 2 or 3 Mantis seminars a year. There are also in school workshops, like 3 section staff, daggers, empty hand forms. If you would like to be on the mailing list, just send a email to RochesterKungFu@AOL.com.