1st VTAA HK Conference (1999)

Hey Joy,

Have you had the chance to touch hands with Ho sifu? I’ve heard some remarkable things about what he can do in Chi Sao.

Rene- Very fortunately-Yes- several times.

His control is amazing. A little correction here and there
and lightbulbs come on.

He is getting up in years and is a true fountain of knowledge…not just in chi sao
but in all aspects of wing chun. I am very fortunate (hence true yuanfen)
to have the sigung and sifu that I have. They have their own unique personalities but they have their awesome common foundations.

Actually touching hands and doing chi sao is such a different world from jabberwocky.- or describing it.

Sigung Ho’s chi sao with Ip Man was extensive. Ip Man was selective about doing chi sao- sigung is from the same mold.

Rene- Yes- several times.

His control is amazing. A little correction here and there
and lightbulbs come on.

He is getting up in years and is a true fountain of knowledge…not just in chi sao
but in all aspects of wing chun. I am very fortunate (hence true yuanfen)
to have the sigung and sifu that I have. They have their own unique personalities but they have their awesome common foundations.

Actually touching hands and doing chi sao is such a different world from jabberwocky.- or describing it.

Sigung Ho’s chi sao with Ip Man was extensive.

yaunfen - I think you are correct about Yip Man being cagey. From the stories I’ve heard from my SiFu, I believe that there is much that is scattered and also lost.

IMHO - Yip Man was blessed with a combination of both natural ability and the quality training time that only a wealthy young man could afford. Not many distractions or concerns to hinder his training. From what I gather - his best students were very much like him. Unfortunately some of them chose not to teach or were never put into a position where they had to teach for a living.

Yuan:

  • I totally concur with you about doing Chi Sao with Sifu Ho. He is pretty amazing, and the sensitivity, control, and structure he exhibits during Chi Sao takes Wing Chun to another level few are able to duplicate, teach, or demonstrate. In my own training over the years, Sifu Ho and I spent many, many hours doing Chi Sao, and I can’t tell you how much I miss doing Chi Sao with him. I have also had the privilege to touch hands with some of Yip Man’s other students, and all the exposure made me really appreciate having had the opportunity to be trained by Sifu Ho. It is almost impossible to describe the experience itself, but I am sure that those folks like yourself who have had the opportunity to practice with him know what I mean. It definitely brings to light why Chi Sao is such an essential tool for the development of sensitivity, structure, timing, control and distance, as well as why it is such an indispensable part of one’s Wing Chun training.

Thanks NTC- your much greater experience and exposure to master Ho as your sifu- confirms my view of his knowledge from the touches of my experience- made possible by the opening of the door to wing chun by my sifu.
Sigung is really a wing chun treasure specially since the passing of other wing chun masters.

joy

Yuan:

Can’t agree with you more !!!