# \#old-styles-of-china

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## [Blood Red Fist or Tongbei Quan? Which are Chinas oldest systems.](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/blood-red-fist-or-tongbei-quan-which-are-chinas-oldest-systems/58806)

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**Author:** [@RITTERKING1](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/RITTERKING1)\
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**Last updated:** [August 31, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/blood-red-fist-or-tongbei-quan-which-are-chinas-oldest-systems/58806 "2017-08-31T10:11:41Z")

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Greetings! I just read the Blood Red Fist article in the November December 2016 issue. It states that Hong Quan a military and the oldest style in China is. And that Tongbei Quan a substyle of Hong Quan is. Hong Quan ha…