You are in a parking lot and a thug jumps out with a knife,and stabbs your wife or yourself.Would you kill that thug if you had no choice.
re: Hmmm…
Good Question.
Hard to answer…
I would like to think that skill would enable to not have to kill. After all that what the training is for right? But real life is so different. rules can become for keeps. Simple survival. What choice to make? Life in danger, mate and children in danger. I will be honest, I am not sure how to answer you question. I would like to think about it for a long while.
Brian
San Francisco, CA
I once thought that the answer was simple - yes. I then had an experience where my mother asked me to kill some crabs we were going to eat for dinner. When I went to kill the crabs, I had a very hard time of it because I was thinking “I’m about to extinguish a life”.
After that I realised that I would have a far harder time actually killing a person, even in self defence.
Ultimately though, I think I would do whatever had to be done to protect myself and my loved ones. Hopefully, that doesn’t mean I’d have to kill someone.
Guns don’t kill people, I kill people
Yes.
Better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.
“Waiting is bad.” - Musashi
ah lets think first you kill him you wait for the cops they find out your a martial artist and your hands are by law considered a deadly weapon your going to jail, there was a lawyer/martial artist who wrote a book on somthing like this, now if there was more then one thug then if one dies it’s defferent.
Why would you get arrested? He was the one with the knife trying to take my life or my wife’s. I thought the law allowed you to defend yourself with equal amount of force as the other person was using on you? As to the original post, I would try to incapacitate him but if I had no other alternative I would kill him.
Peace
Daryl
abandit
i do beleive there is cream for those crabs?
yes taking a life is easy although i can be traumatising for people if they have. even a normal fight i would go for the kill!!! there is no mucking around when your life is in danger.
peace
Yes
Without any hesitation,without any thought or remorse,if the attacker had stabbed my wife or
my ex-wife,that is an attack on my children,
the same mind-set goes for me,if I am attacked
not only are they attacking me there is a
chance I may be maimed or killed,thus my attackers
taking away from my children,I have been in real
life situations where my attacker
started to get the advantage,the thoughts
of me perishing and my children living without
me because I’ve been attacked turned me into
a wolverine on crack,I’ve never fought so hard and
effective in my life,nothing could stop me,it was a sub conscious flash of survival that put a
“Tiger in my tank”
I could write chapters on this,the military
trained me to use the best weapon I had
both in offensive and defensive tactics.
That best weapon I had wasn’t my rifle or
the radio which I could call on all sorts
of death and destruction on my
enemy,my best weapon is my mind,you have to cultivate your response with what motivates
you in life.
[This message was edited by tnwingtsun on 03-31-01 at 03:39 PM.]
Yes. Sure it it would be distressing afterwards, but not half as bad as being stabbed, or having to watch your loved ones stabbed.
On the legal front, you’d be OK as long as you didn’t disarm him or restrain him before killing him.
Think about it, if you live in America then you could legally shoot the guy!
“Weapons are the embodiments of fear,
the wise use them only when they have no choice”
Lao Tzu
Ben
Yes,in America we can legally use deadly
force in a situation where you are in danger of bodily harm,and I am all for that,my ex-wife
called me and wanted me to take her out to the range so she could feel confident if the need ever arises,before we ever gotto the range there are several things she must drill herself
both in her mind and body before understanding
the use of a firearm,anyone can shoot a gun and hit a paper target.
I don’t want this to turn into a pro gun vs. anti gun debate.
but you would want the max. protection for
your loved ones if the situation should
ever accure.
Let me address this horse sh_t about
your hands being deadly weapons(not you Ben,the person that brought it up),this is a WWW,hence laws will differ from country to country and in the USA from state to state.
If I was Bruce Lee and hit you I could be charged
with simple assult.
If I was Richard Simons and hit you with
a VHS tape of sweating to the oldies
I could be charged with agravatied assult,which would be a fedral offence.
Go figure
:rolleyes:
My state has CCP laws. I wouldn’t think of picking up a weapon nor recommending a friend do so if I felt that hesitation or unfamiliarity would prevent it’s full use in a threatened situation.
Being the gender and weight class that I am, assault on my person is more predisposed than any other group - as is my acquittal of use of deadly force after such an event.
I feel it is personally neccessary to have every weapon legally available to me and the training to know how to use them. So should every person on this board. Martial arts are still legal in the US. We must fight to keep it that way.
“Waiting is bad.” - Musashi
absolutely
Im sure it is never an easy thing to take another life.
having said that I would kill the attacker, in this senario or die trying. In az the law states that you have to be in eminent danger of death or bodily harm to use deadly force.
this senerio is a clasic example of that. as for being armed i belive strongly in what richard marcinko calls the rule of the seven p’s, proper previous planning prevents p!ss pore performance. that means mentaly and physically you have to be prepaired for the worst case senario. we live in a violent society, even the most skilled of fighters from any age wouldn’t walk around un armed, when every one around them is. musashi felt it was bad not to use every weapon available to him in a fight. thus his two sword style.
FT: You’re the sick bastard now 
Everyone else:
Yeah, I guess I’d have to agree. I think if it came down to them dying, or myself or loved ones dying, then I would probably kill them and deal with the consequences later.
Guns don’t kill people, I kill people
really?
Do you really think you all could take a life?
think had about it.
This is something you can NEVER TAKE BACK.
If you kill, have not you basically forgotten the basic belief of yor training?
Kung fu only for defense. Not for hurting or ego. Only for helping others, not harm or hurting.
Brian
San Francisco, CA
Brian, the point is that in a life or death situation, I’d rather they died than I died. Otherwise my training is for naught.
Of course I would rather not kill. Having that on my conscience would torture me for the rest of my life. But if it were a choice of them dying, or myself or a loved one dying, I would kill to ensure the safety of myself or a loved one.
Guns don’t kill people, I kill people
kill’em all i say
abandit is right, hit 1st ask questions later.
its beyond my beliefs to kill someone, but i think i could kill some stranger more than to kill my pet. is that weird??
i could kill a human before a animal just put it that way then. :rolleyes:
peace
I would not even need to think about it. The other guy would be put down like a mad dog.
It makes me a little sad to see that some people here don’t take there lives that seriously where they would have to think about this situation and then decide on its outcome.
If someone was attempting to kill me or injury my loved one’s I would remove them from the planet so fast the actions would be second nature.
If I can get out of the situation without having to cross that line then that would be for the best but I would never think about the other man’s safety for a second and if he ends up a corpse then that is where the cards fell/
Better them then me.
Regards
okay i see where your coming from but still the fact remains you are a martial artist you are considered a deadly weapon and you are not to kill him but hurt or restrain him why cause your a martial artist ask any cop on the street they’ll tell you my pops a cop and he told me the same thing unless there is more then one attacker a martial artist or boxer or wrestler is not allowed to kill an opponent. sucks doesn’t it. he also told me you can get away with it if got a good lawyer.
So it doesn’t matter that a guy with a weapon is trying to kill you?? You can’t kill him defending yourself unless there’s two or more of them??!! I don’t think so. I’d rather be “tried by twelve than carried by six.”
Peace
Daryl
Peacemaker I hope you wise up as what you stated shows you have very little knowledge of the law and of fighting in general.
Are you 13 or 14 or something?
Go hug a tree.
Regards