Attn: Gene Ching
“And, wow, did they give me an earful on Paulie Zink…” You must really be hearing it about Shaolin-Do article or not? I’ve seen you on another msg board take alot of flack for articles of fake monks, the article on Shaolin-Do and “Grandmaster of Shaolin” Sin The clearly endorses him by your magazine. Is there any fact checking or is he as legit of a GM in Shaolin as anyone or is there another set criteria for getting an article in your mag?
endorsement
Kungfu Qigong magazine does not officially endorse or refute anyone. It is really not our place. We report as even-handed as we can (and given the martial world, it’s not easy.) Some might interpret the appearence of someone in our magazine as an endorsement, but it really isn’t. By the same logic, a newspaper endorses all the candidates and all the issues since they report on it.
We were fully aware of the controversy surrounding Shaolin-do (in fact, I did publish a critical anecdote about meeting them at Shaolin Temple a long time ago…) but we felt that the pictures of the Southern Temple were too good to pass up, especially since it was the first time most westerners had ever seen this temple.
The only place we have had any negative reaction to the Southern Shaolin Temple article has been here on the forums. But then, forums tend towards negativity. I always say you’re not anyone until someone flames you. The personal attacks I have received, particularly on the shaolin.nl forum, well, that was partly my fault. Some time ago, Ervin Nieves published an inflammatory article, not unlike Brian Grey’s recent one in IKF. I responded to Nieves point-for-point in an article I published in IKF, refuting all of his arguments. He, in turn, published another inflammatory article attacking me and my Sifu personally but could only publish it in a HK film fanzine that was printed on xerox machine. No martial arts magazine would touch his work again because his initial inflammatory piece was libel. The experience earned me some enemies, but they are pretty impotent, unless you are offended by trolls. I guess that’s why I’ve been avoiding responding to the Brian Grey article, although many have asked me.
Most of the response to the Shaolin-Do written Southern Temple article has been positive inquiries for more information about the Southern Shaolin Temple, so in our next issue, we have a picture of the archeological dig (that’s from Benny Meng, not Shaolin-Do.) We hope to get more out about the southern temple soon. Perhaps someone on this forum could go and report for us?
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KungfuMagazine.com
[This message was edited by geneching on 03-20-01 at 09:49 AM.]
really?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> But then, forums tend towards negativity. I always say you’re not anyone until someone flames you. [/quote]
Man!! Then I must be a superstar!!! LOL!!!
Its dangerous to think you are immortal.
sifuabel@aol.com
sifuabel
Yep, you’re in the flame club and welcome to it! But there are all kinds of superstars, so it’s not really much of an honor. Some of us get there by being real, some get there by being fake. My strategy has been to be the real fake. What about you? 
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KungfuMagazine.com
Real is as real does.
I’ve not claimed or done anything that I am not or that I haven’t done. I’ve been flamed on this board just by standing up and not be bullied. Is there something wrong with that? I think not.
Gene, If you are who I think you are then we have met before. I have had seminar with your teacher and I am always ready to give an endorsement. There is nothing fake about you or your teacher.
Its dangerous to think you are immortal.
sifuabel@aol.com
Apologies to SifuAbel
Sorry, I didn’t mean to come off as accusing you of being real or fake, but now that I re-read my last post, it certainly has that tone. Most forum flame wars start from poor writing like in my last post and I, of all people, so be more cautious.
Have we met before? Forgive me again for not remembering you. If you’re in San Mateo, our office is in Fremont. If you are ever going to be in the neighborhood, drop me a line and I’d be happy to give you a quick tour of the our office.
And we extend that invitation to everyone on the forum. www.KungfuMagazine.com is part of a real brick & mortar business, Tiger Claw Martial Arts Supplies, and you are all very welcome to visit. We don’t really have a showroom because Tiger Claw is wholesale only, but if you give me a call to arrange a time, I’d be happy to personally take you on a quick short tour.
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KungfuMagazine.com
I can’t be sure.
I know that that I visited your teachers school with my teacher a couple of years ago. My teacher is Gus Rubio from florida. And, I think we spoke briefly at your teachers kiosk at the the 98 Lily lao tournie. If it was you, you had longish hair and mustash.
Its dangerous to think you are immortal.
sifuabel@aol.com
Gene>>>Ya that was him alright
Ya, the way he looked at that time…He looked like the bandit from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
In fact, people say he STILL looks like the bandit. hahahhhaahahh
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now I’m sure.
I was the guy limping around at the tourney. I had injured myself doing something really stupid and couldn’t compete for a year. Black T-shirt chinese writing on the front. Diamond with a snake spear in the middle.
Its dangerous to think you are immortal.
sifuabel@aol.com
Did somebody say they were from San Mateo. FL?
Greetings Gene,
A martial arts aquaintance of mine said to me that he heard from a Wing Lam student that the videos on sets (kuen) have something different or left out than what is taught for each set in the Kwoon, so that your sifu and students could tell if a person learn’t by video. To me, it makes no sense at all…your sifu would know whether he taught a student in person or not and I know that this aquaintance of mine is always trashing. However, I am interested in your comment regarding this. Thanks in advance!
GHD 
My Sifu has a few video series out through ESPY-TV. I currently only own the first tape in the JKD series, but plan on buying the full Kali series real soon. In the JKD series, he goes over thigns very well and has some of the assnt instructors help. I think he did a great job with it. I also own a few tapes by Tat Mau Wong on the Shoalin Staff and 5 Animals. He goes over them very well showing different angles and slow motion. he also adds in comments during the form. My only gripe is that not enough applications are shown, especially in the 5 animals form. But the ones he does show he goes over atleast 3 or 4 times, and really gives you an understanding of the application. Another video series I am starting to gather is the Long Fist series by Dr. Yang Jwing Ming. The video is put together very well. Many many applications are shown and that makes me feel good, giving me a better understanding of things. The only real complaint I have with the vids is that the slow motion, or follow along speed really isn’t slow enough and I often have to put my vcr on slow mo so I can do it at an understanding pace. I plan on buying some of Wing Lam’s vids soon also.
-Kymus
~Crosstraining is the key~
-Sifu Rick Tucci
www.pamausa.com
SifuAbel & Gold Horse Dragon
SifuAble,
I was at that tournament, but forgive me if I don’t remember you. Come by the office here in Fremont sometime and refresh my memory!
Gold Horse Dragon,
I wish we could have been that premeditated in our video production to do something you suggest, but no. It was enough of an effort just to make the videos. However, I will admit that there are a few of us who CAN tell the difference between Wing Lam’s video students and the ones that come to his school, but not because of some intentional deletion. The reason is that we can only put so much into a video.
A video is a wonderful resource and can put out as much as info as intensive private lesson at a fraction of the price, plus you don’t have to take notes because you have the video. However, if you are a direct student, who knows how many such lessons you might receive over the course of a year. So of course, there is a difference. Videos are great but there is simply no substitute for direct transmission.
After writing over 100 videos(for both Wing Lam and now for TC Media,) let me tell you, making videos a lot of work (that is, if you want to do them well.) I have always made an effort to give more context, more history and more translations. And that is the most telling clue for me to identify video students - the knowledge, not the moves. For example, an article was submitted to the magazine recently about the animals of Ha Say Fu. I read it and though “man, that sounds familiar.” Then it hit me, it was directly from the videos I wrote, almost word-for-word.
This is happening more and more. Lately I get my own research spit back at me all twisted up - from people who didn’t listen well or learned from a teacher who used the videos as a source. It’s really funny to me. I guess I’m flattered.
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KungfuMagazine.com
Hi Gene,
Thanks for the reply…it is as I thought - my aquaintance doing more trashing…sheesh!
Article with word for word what you wrote for the tape script…again - sheesh!..I guess he did not know where else to research, but word for word!..must have been a short article, because as you say, you can’t fit an over amount on a tape. Did this guy do Ha Say Fu or was he just writing on it?..if he does it, he should have asked his sifu a lot about it.
GHD
ha say fu you may do
Actually, if you compile all the video narrations together, you can flesh out a decent length article. He tied it together with some other comments, but there were large sections that were directly plagerized. I suppose it’s good to know that those videos are being studied carefully, since that was our intention.
The guy did do ha say fu, at least from the videos. I don’t know if he had another source beyond that. It certainly didn’t sound like it.
Plagery is such poor “wude.” I struggle to remain unattached. Once I’ve published something, it belongs to the readers. But I do try to keep track of anyone who might be stealing my credit, especially since this is how I make my living. You can take or leave my writings, but please leave my food on my plate, I do have a family to feed.
Gene Ching
Asst. Publisher
Kungfu Qigong Magazine & www.KungfuMagazine.com
Wing Lam Kung fu
has anyone ever heard of Wing Lam and his Kung Fu learning dvds at www.wle.com? I was just wondering so i could know how good they were if they were at all.
There are video clips on youtube and probably exerpts from the instructional sections as well.
IMO the are average in that they satisfy what the standard of the time was to teach a Form and give some literal movement applications.
Are you looking to learn some forms or to gain insight into combat/self defense?
There’s a lot on Wing Lam here, Raipizo
Play with the search engine and you’ll find more. Meanwhile, I’ve merged your thread to one of our older ones that was similar.
i’ve noticed lol Well i was looking forward to learning his shaolin style kung fu.