ewalleye, don’t forget long flowing coats and owning a black humvee.
Black Jack, I think for the average citizen a gun isn’t the answer either. They still need some pretty serious training to be used well, especially in a high stress situation. I don’t have a problem with people carrying them mind you, I just don’t think your average citizen is more able to use one then they are to learn martial arts.
I used to live in the smarter part of Texas…Louisiana. 
Hey, at least we Texans don’t invite people over for the express purpose of p!ssing and vomiting in our streets.
hehe, maybe you have never been to Austin on a friday night
"A housewife is not going to be able to aikido throw a determined attacker with murder on his mind "
Or shoot her husband in an uncontrollable fit of rage…
hmm…
Just curious, but does anyone have statistics of hate crimes commited with guns?
I think guns are cool, but on the same card, I hate them more than anything in the world. That and hard drugs. 
But as to not be redundant, Ive already said how I feel on another thread…
Id rather teach my woman kung fu than gun usage. Have infinate more respect for someone who can nail a bulls eye at 20 feet with a throwing hatchet than someone who can nail a bullseye at 200 yds with a rifle.
Red - Them’s is native pukers. (But you’re right, I avoid the drunken teenybopper hell that is 6th Street on the weekends whenever possible.)
hehe, I did notice the crowd there seemed to be a little on the young side…but where else am I going to get chicks to hide in my basement prison for 3 months to 6 years?
ugh… weekend 6th street is crap.
Stubbs bbq has some great concerts…
go there all the time.
Austin has enough parties to not have to go to 6th street.
The best thing about a concert at Stubb’s outdoor stage is you can just hang out on the Waller Creek bike trail right outside and hear the whole thing for free. If you’re not interested in the stage show, at least.
Still, for my money the best you can do is hang out in little dives more off the beaten track: Saxon Club, Elephant Room, Ginny’s Little Longhorn Saloon, Continental Club, Ego’s - like that.
Red- I totally disagree with the bit on how a sidearm is somehow as hard to learn as a traditional martial art. Factual data speaks far different in terms of the lifes that are saved every week with firearms alone where the player has no extensive training.
Shaolin- I have already stated how absurd I believe that line of thinking to be so I will not rehash it here. Killing is killing buddy be it with a hachet or with a .45 colt. The difference being that real life is not about what you “respect” in terms of martial skill but it is about the survival of those who do not have the matrix movie like attributes to kill people at 20 yards with a hachet.
Such as most of the world in general.
Didnt say I condone killing… hehe
Unlike a great gun and non gun weilding majority of the world, I understand the value of human life.
Once again… Anyone got statistics on Violent crimes to Violent crimes commited with guns? Or statistics of positive gun use (saving lives) to Negative gun use? (taking lives…)
Once again… Anyone got statistics on Violent crimes to Violent crimes commited with guns? Or statistics of positive gun use (saving lives) to Negative gun use? (taking lives…)
These kinds of statistics would only be relevant to an abstract discussion about whether the world would be better without guns, not to whether an individual living in the world we actually live in would be better off with or without firearms training.
If you live in a culture where there are firearms, it is unrealistic to believe you have a complete repertoire of self-defense skills if you do not know how to use firearms.
Of course I know how to shoot a gun.
My major issue is people who carry guns.
you 2nd amendament advocates and
non gun owners should watch the documentary film made by Micheal Moore “Bowling for columbine” this will open your all s eyes to some realites here in this country and the gun ownership. you know i used to advocate owning a gun and i used to be a 2nd amendment advocate. but after really seeing with clarity the fultility of owning a gun and carrying one. i can be justified in making a strong statement against gun ownwership.
just what is it that makes us so gung ho for a gun? possible answers?: Media,violence in hollywood,mental illness, paranoid delusional apocalyptic militants?
if you are a decent law abiding citizen then what is the use of carrying one anyway? black jack says that this is not the ming dynasty where we carry swords. but i should remind him that this is ALSO NOT the wild west where you holster a six shooter.
i highly reccommend EVERYONE seeing “Bowling for columbine”
i know this will spark alot of responses and fantasy scenarios of "what if's"
if ye be all the disciplined martial artist students and disciples out there then maybe its time to walk that talk and avoid the places and people where crime is more evident. Avoid the machismo attitude of getting in to it with someone cause they bumped into you in line at the Mickey D's. and ESPECIALLY when you are out on the ROAD driving. use that zen discipline to be courteous to other people on the road no matter what.
Many Respects,,The Willow Sword
oh and one more thing. the next time a ballot comes out in your town wanting to vote on having less patrol cars out there on the streets you vote “NO”
Guns are shiny, they make my peepee bigger
Mmm… Nothing like the feeling of cold steel on your hip to stroke that ego…
Havent seen Bowling for Columbine yet WS, but id really like to. Seen the trailers, looks like a great movie.
Sifu ryan said hello btw, and thx again for the help once upon a time.
Micheal Moore is the biggest fat liberal idiot in the world and that is saying something in a big world full of liberal idiots. Bowling for Columbine was horrible hollywood tripe. Using him as a pulpit for your anti-self defense viewpoints is WAY off kelter and actually pretty uneducated.
Anyone who is against the 2nd Amendment and the Bill of Rights is a traitor…period…you are not only a traitor to the core rights of the country you live in but to your fellow citizen as you strive to take away a method of self-defense because of your own insecurites, control issues and wild west daydreams of blackguards and knaves who are intent on world wide genocide.
Get a grip on yourself.
Guess your right.
Lemme put on my sh!t kickin boots and plate sized belt buckle and lets have us an NRA party! We can play some good ol chip tossin games! YEEEHAW!
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What could have been a potentially interesting thread has turned into very cough mature personal attacks at one another intelligence.
How different… Or not.
Edit - That was an attack at the NRA as an association, not the people involved in it, more the people that run it.
and some of the people in it.
Wouldn’t carrying a gun be more under the heading " first strike" rather than “self defense”? I mean, if the other guy has a gun, and his pointing it at you, wouldn’t the self defense approach be to give him your shlt? If the other guy doesn’t have a gun, wouldn’t it be a bit much to plug a few holes in him?
I would bet you don’t know jack crap about the NRA, its members, who by the way are people from ALL walks of life, its functions, or how it is run.
What if games are not what I am going to get into…what if I had a car that could go underwater…what if people could leap around like in crouching tiger hidden dragon…what if I had three testicles…
Exactly why I said people who carry and pull guns are weak and incapable…
It could be argued that it takes balls to pull the trigger, but it doesnt. It takes lack of thought and ability to squash jiminy cricket on your shoulder.