Anyone noticed that the reverse grip for the butterfly swords kinda resembles the finger salute?
The way several of the weapons are handled can serve to strengthen the index finger used in the 1 finger kiu sau.
An identifying hand symbol.
I don’t think it has much in the way of martial application.
If there is, I would like to see it applied and be shown the consistency of the ability to apply it by virtue of design and function.
Otherwise, I will continue to understand it as a hand sign that identified Ming and symbolized their unity in their rebellion.
I could be wrong. We can always be wrong. It is our right! 
Otherwise, I will continue to understand it as a hand sign that identified Ming and symbolized their unity in their rebellion.
that hand signal is a modification of the Hung Society hand signal signifying a certain individuals birth or death date…that slips my mind at the moment.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;905889]because the middle finger salute was taken already by “fungulayou-jtsu”.[/QUOTE]
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHHAHAHAHAH
Dude, I was taking a drink when I read that…and it’s comedic value hit me just at the right moment. Oh man I fell out my chair for some reason.
[QUOTE=diego;905640]…in sun lu tang’s hsing yi book he used the palm down posture for fighting but uses the palm facing front while you stare at the index finger for chi development. I wonder if the internal arts were inspired by the YJJ bridges?.[/QUOTE]
No. Not at the index finger. You look out through the tiger’s mouth.
[QUOTE=omarthefish;1206382]No. Not at the index finger. You look out through the tiger’s mouth.[/QUOTE]
Yup. Hop Gar does this as well.
The question is…who started the trend? I think we know its meaning in the patriotic societies, but why does it show up elsewhere?
[QUOTE=jdhowland;1206528]Yup. Hop Gar does this as well.
The question is…who started the trend? I think we know its meaning in the patriotic societies, but why does it show up elsewhere?[/QUOTE]
buddhist influenced gang signs was started by white lotus.
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;905814]ah, but where did baduajin come from…[/QUOTE]
The first eight of the eighteen lohan hands.
According to the tradition the Bodhidharma transmitted the 18 lohan hands, sinew metamorphosis, and skills of bone marrow cleansing.
It’s pure B/S and means absolutely nothing.
Sorry. That’s the truth.
Make al the hand signs you want, none of them will make you a better fighter, martial artist, or person.
Total baloney.
It’s pure B/S and means absolutely nothing.
Sorry. That’s the truth.
Make al the hand signs you want, none of them will make you a better fighter, martial artist, or person.
Total baloney.
did anyone say to you “this will make you a better fighter” ? i confuse. a person like you that has no idea why that hand signal was designed for is expected to make idiotic comments like that. too bad fa you. sad that the only thing you know how to do is fight. you can’t lion dance, you cant do forms, you can’t drum, you can’t do weapons.
thats pretty sad that all you know how to do is fight. how many UFC or Dragonhouse MMA have you won? who are you and how do we know you can fight?
if i were you i’d feel pretty jipped and waste all my years
Buddhist Origin?
Someone mentioned the index finger salute may be a buddhist hand symbol:
Not sure, but I think its called a tarjani mudra which is a “threat, warning. The extended index finger is pointed at the opponent, which is ignorance or delusion and the antidote is wakefulness or mindfulness.”
I know A LOT of people want to understand that signal as martial technique but its not. out of just not knowing, people overlook the underlying reality that some of the hands in southern gung fu were also used as secret signals, no martial value…but to members of the fraternity…they know.