I have.
Every single one. BJJ guys used to be the only sparring partners I had for about a year or so
Wrestlers are extremely tough, and can hurt you if youâre not careful. Awesome fighters.
Boxers are great too. Just because a lot canât fight on the ground doesnât mean itâs a piece of cake to get them thereâŚ
I sparred one Muay Thai guy, but I donât think he was really good. We had a âyou canât take me downâ challenge matchâŚI took him down quite easily.
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âOne who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.â
How (if at all) did it change your views/training of the CMA? I for one, was the âUltimate Warriorâ until I got my clock cleaned by wrestler.
Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.
Neither did Muay Thai - although I fought one guy from Iran who was so relaxed and fast that whenever my timing on the throw was off, he punched the Sh!t out of me.
Wrestlers, confirmed what I already beleived. They learn fast too. Early on thier hard core approach to training impacted my mind set and influenced my training from then on.
BJJ - ticked me off, because they did all these things that I got yelled at for doing in my Judo days. Then they took it all light years ahead. I woke up one day and discovered my groundwork was still in the Axial age, while everyone else was in the industrial age. Groundwork isnât my primary thing, but it is important. Iâm really digging all the things that I am picking up from my friends who are focusing on it.
Iâm still not conviced ground pounders can deal with a knife thoâŚ
âPoor is the pupil who
does not surpass his
masterâ - Leonardo Da
Vinci
It didnât, as I was into muay thai and grappling before I got into CMA. What really woke me up was karate (seriously) I had never met a good karateka until I met a friend of mine. He is so fast and relaxed - no rigidity, he utilizes more than just srtaight line attacks, and he has awesome power. He actually moves the way a good CMA should move.
My other big wake up call came from a hellified spinning back kick from a TKD stylist. There is a korean teacher here who is excellent. he coached the female 88 gold medalist, and his students are very skilled.
From this I learned never to underestimate anyone just because of the style they train in
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesnât mean Iâm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair
I think the biggest thing I learned from these guys is that you MUST I repeat MUST work this stuff in all out full contact sparring on a somewhat regular basis. Otherwise, itâs just pretty forms and theory that will probably get you killed.
Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.
I used to study boing and kickboxing. So whenever I spar my buddies that is what they use. I also spar a lot of street fighters (My cousins donât really belive that any martial arts work, so they always try to hurt me when I least expect it. They have not succeeded yet.) Also my brother in arms studies small circle jujitsu and other japenese styles. So whenever we spar it ends up being Japenese vs. Chinese styles.
Agreed, WD. believe that is a necessity. That is how you are able to determine if what you are using will work (techniques you are using, not your style) and will point out what you need to work on more. It will also aid in teaching you how to deal with a hard hit, as there are many factors involved other than pain - spinning, if itâs a solid shot to the jaw, the tendency to flinch after youâre been hit hard, etc.
nightair, you studied boing? itâs good to train boing under (and over) a good shapely partner!
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesnât mean Iâm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair
Sparring against different styles, and even more importantly, a range of persons from different styles and systems is just good for your abilitys in general - not sure what you mean by âviewâ of CMA. I do have faith in my art.
Remember, most humans have 2 arms, 2 legs, head, elbows, etc.
Muy Thai fighters are usually the most brutal that I have sparred.
I have also expierenced some surprizes against some Karate people and TKD people.
I regularly sparr against a college bud of mine who is a âexpertâ in TKD. I dont know his belt level, etc, but he has been training under his father - his whole life. Quite a talented fighter.
Iâm sure that by âviewsâ he means in reference to the way that you train. As we all know, not all schools spar, and mainly focus on forms and drills. What he is saying is that if that applies to you, and you then sparred full contact with someone who does so on a regular basis (which is why he used they styles that he did - they are used to contact, even if they arenât all western )did it change your outlook on the way you should train? If you only do forms, you may be giving yourself a false sense of confidence if you thnk you will be able to handle yourself in a confrontation
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesnât mean Iâm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair
I learned that while the âWMAâ (as defined in this thread) were not the ultimate, they could provide a different perspective for determining âtrue combat effectivenessâ which could compliment any stylistic approach. Any art I observe, I now gauge by what I percieve as itâs ability to cope with spontaneous, unrehearsed, full-speed exchange.
Well Iâve sparred more than just those.
Iâve sparred Boxing,Thai,BJJ,Judo,Karate,Tae Kwon Do,Wing Chun,Northern Long Fist,5 Animals,Ninjitsu,Wrestling and some others.
Itâs good to experience different styles.
âYouâre Good Kid Real Good,But As Long As Iâm Arround Youâll Always Be Second Best Seeâ.
