The yang style that i practice has the move White snake spits its tongue in the short form.
Is this move contained in other versions of the yang style?
Also does anyone know what generation this yang form is?
Cheers Lausan 
White Snake Spits Out Tongue is in a lot of Yang style forms. I donāt think itās specifically confined to the long forms. Youāll have to give us a little more info before anyone can telly you what generation your form is, though.
āI put forth my power and he was broken.
I withdrew my power and he was ground into fine dust.ā
-Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice
White Snake Spits Itās Tounge
My yang style, which is Tung style does not have a move called white snake spits itās tounge. Maybe Sam can expliane this move from āoldā Yang style. Post a picture maybe. In Yin style baguazhang we have a move specifically called white snake spits itās tounge. It looks like thisā¦
White Snake Spits Out Tongue is one of the moves we do after Fan Through Back. The other is Turn and Chop with Fist. I donāt have any pictures of it myself, but there is one I know in Erleās book on the old Yang style that he has on his website.
Basically, you have just used Fan Through Back on someone, and you are attacked from behind by another person. You block his right punch with your left palm. Your right palms comes up inside you left and you strike him with a back palm to the face. Then you stick you left fingers into his eyes. Very simple, but very nice.
Iām still working on getting some photos to put up here instead of just writing. It would simplify things much more.
But anyway, that move is done in both the old and the new Yang styles.
āI put forth my power and he was broken.
I withdrew my power and he was ground into fine dust.ā
-Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice
Turn and chop with the back
hmmm, Are you saying that the move after fan through is a different move than turn and chop or the same move with a different name? I can see a similarity with the block and chop and the block and spit except with the leg wrapping and water energy in the strike.
ps Sam, could you give the link to Erleās site, I donāt think I have it. You could just click on the image button and give the address to his photo on his site to use it here.
[This message was edited by count on 04-14-01 at 07:39 AM.]
Your doing it Countā¦
Do the posture i your picture from a front stance. In William CC Chenās long form, it is done instead of step up with parry and punch in the last third and then goes into ward off. Itās a rubbing slice into the side of the neck.
Although there are many styles, they all depend on the strong beating the weak and the slow falling to the quick. These are not related to the power that must be learned ā Taiji Classics
Actually, the picture is in a book in pdf format on his site. So I donāt think I could just do a link straight to the pic. But if you go to the full index of his site (thereās a link to it on the main page), and then go to the free stuff page from there, you can download the book in 4 parts. I forget which section itās in, but itās in maybe section two or three of the book.
Erleās site:
http://www.taijiworld.com
Yes, though, that move is done two different ways, once as Turn and Chop, and the next time as Snake Spits Tongue. Same body movement and stepping, but different hand movements.
āI put forth my power and he was broken.
I withdrew my power and he was ground into fine dust.ā
-Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice
Baishe Tuxin - Yang style
In my style, Baishe tuxin is done after the 2nd Gao Tan Ma (High pat horse). The sequence is Danbian (single whip), Yunshou (cloud hands), Danbian, Gao Tan ma (high pat horse), Baishe Tuxin (White snake spits its tongue), Shizi Baijiao (cross shaped sweep foot, slapping right instep with left palm while kicking in crescent shape), Zhidang chui (point Dang/crotch fist), etc.
Wish for peace
Yes Sam
I just got home from class and I see snake spits itās tounge in Yang Form. Iām still trying to differentiate between High Pat on Horse movement but it seems to be more of an eye strike or something. I like it very much!
Sam posted:
āBasically, you have just used Fan Through Back on someone, and you are attacked from behind by another person. You block his right punch with your left palm. Your right palms comes up inside you left and you strike him with a back palm to the face. Then you stick you left fingers into his eyes. Very simple, but very nice.ā
I think the way Iāve been taught is somewhat different than Samās. After Fan Back, youāre attacked from behind, and you rotate clockwise 180 degrees. What we do is sweep our right hand down and away(waist level) with the turn to clear out the attack, and then the left hand attacks to the head or upper body with fingers or a palm strike. I sort of envision it as defending against a punch or kick to the lower body as you turn, and then striking with the left.
countā¦ shame on youā¦
what is all this talk of, āi think itās used to poke somebody in the eyeā¦ā (said in nasally, sissy voice.)
what happened to your, ā1 posture, 10,000 applicationsā theory?
doesnāt that make the discussion of applications a moot point?
DoD #pending
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Flame to Live
MA you bastid. Just havet to start trouble donāt ya. Canāt just let it go huh? 
Although there are many styles, they all depend on the strong beating the weak and the slow falling to the quick. These are not related to the power that must be learned ā Taiji Classics
MaFuYee
Hey, what can I say. If it werenāt for the specific split in the fingers I was shown it might be one of the dozens of applications for High Pat but this spit is really only good for eyes. Are the rest of you told the fingers should split on the spit?
MaFuYee, you are a trouble maker and your closmindedness lost all 4 of us in the previous discussion on applications. Get a clue dude. Want to discuss something constructively. Donāt be so quick to assume you are right and the rest of the world is wrong. Open your mind to the possibilities!1@
Poke to the old ojoās?
OOOHHHHH!!! I like it!!
Although there are many styles, they all depend on the strong beating the weak and the slow falling to the quick. These are not related to the power that must be learned ā Taiji Classics
Count,
Do you mean seeing something similar to the posture you posted a picture of? If so, that movement would probably be Inspection of Horseās Mouth. Inspection is a snake move, definitely, sort of like the tongue darting out. Is the posture you posted done darting the hand forward?
In an interesting sidenote, in Yang style Taiji, we do High Pat on Horse just before Snake Spits Tongue, both going into the same direction. In the original Wudang Taiji forms (in the 4th form specifically) we do High Pat, and then spin around 180 degrees to do Snake Spits Tongue.
āI put forth my power and he was broken.
I withdrew my power and he was ground into fine dust.ā
-Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice
Sam,
The photo posted above (from bagua, not tai chi) the palm is darting forward. Like I said, similar in application but different in energy. Water as opposed to earth. This is one of my favorites because of the legs. Wrapping and striking simultaniously.
ĆĀ
waa waaa waaa, boo hoo
maās pickin on meā¦ 
heās just a big bully!
iām gonna go and tell my mommy!
DoD #pending
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Flame to Live
Waste!
I like it most as a defense against an uppercut. The downward motion of one arm strikes the upcomming uppercut at the forearm and down to the elbow pit while the other hand moves up and into their throat.
JWT
If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV
Yes. An extremely good application, JWT. One of the original Wudang push hands methods also uses this move. Itās called the Nun, and the movement is where not only Inspection of Horseās mouth but also Nun Offers Food comes from. A damn good application.
āI put forth my power and he was broken.
I withdrew my power and he was ground into fine dust.ā
-Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice