# What kung fu reminds me of...

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**Category:** Kung Fu Forum\
**Created:** [March 29, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322 "2007-03-29T21:57:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/1 "2007-03-29T21:57:12Z")

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Most kung fu schools remind me of survey classes in college. Actually, kung fu, itself, does not remind of survey classes. The way kung fu is taught reminds me of survey classes. Survey classes give you a general idea of the subject. It goes over a broad topics.

What I mean is this: Many kung fu school teach mainly forms, few applications, and even fewer sparring/ realistic self defense techniques. It is kind of like those physics for non-scientist classes.

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After thought:

Kung fu is archaic as a fighting and self defense style. However, it is still effective if it is taught by a good teacher. In addition, it has cultural, historical, health, mental and in some ways spiritual benefits.

Do you need to learn MMA or other martial arts to successfully defend yourself? Not necessarily. If you want to be a complete sports fighter, you do. Do all fights go to the ground? No. This is a modern myth. However, this does not mean that fights cannot go to the ground. Not all sports fights go to the ground. This is true even with two grapplers.

Like mentioned above, kung fu is archaic. It is difficult to teach correctly, and it is difficult to learn. It also takes a long time to learn in most cases. The good thing is that most of us do not live in societies where fighting skills are needed in a short period of time. Plus, do not forget the benefits mentioned above.

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**Author:** ![Oso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/oso/32/63_2.png) [@Oso](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Oso)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/2 "2007-03-29T22:03:22Z")

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/3 "2007-03-29T22:11:39Z")

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What does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Oso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/oso/32/63_2.png) [@Oso](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Oso)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/4 "2007-03-29T22:27:33Z")

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it means nice try thanks for playing.

but, i guess you are serious…

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/5 "2007-03-29T22:29:06Z")

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I give that a 0/10. This doesn’t even make a point.

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**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/6 "2007-03-29T22:29:31Z")

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it’s got an interesting beat, but I can’t dance to it…

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/7 "2007-03-29T22:35:31Z")

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Here’s my recommendation. If your CMA teacher isn’t teaching you fighting, QUIT. It’s very easy, you just stop going to class and giving them $$$.

Of course, they won’t change what they’re doing, except maybe add sanda … big puffy gloves and MMA will take over the world. LOL

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**Author:** ![rogue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/rogue/32/30_2.png) [@rogue](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/rogue)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/8 "2007-03-29T22:36:22Z")

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It’s spelled effective, not affective.

A better way to get responses…

Most kung fu schools remind me of a steaming 6 day old pile of flan that’s covered in flies.

For karate change the 6 days to 7.

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/9 "2007-03-29T22:38:12Z")

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It is two threads in one.

I thought of the second half as I was writing.

The points are:

1. Kung fu is not taught completely; however, it is sold as such.

2. Although kung fu is old, difficult and limited, it still has a place in martial arts.

If you did not understand my thread, you could has asked.

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/10 "2007-03-29T22:39:25Z")

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[QUOTE=rogue;749532]It’s spelled effective, not affective.

A better way to get responses…

Most kung fu schools remind me of a steaming 6 day old pile of flan that’s covered in flies.

For karate change the 6 days to 7.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the spelling correction. i did not notice it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/11 "2007-03-29T22:39:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Flying-Monkey;749536]It is two threads in one.

I thought of the second half as I was writing.

The points are:

1. Kung fu is not taught completely; however, it is sold as such.

2. Although kung fu is old, difficult and limited, it still has a place in martial arts.

If you did not understand my thread, you could has asked.[/QUOTE]

So basically you’re saying that the teachers suck (and are liars), but still go to them. I don’t really like that sentiment.

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**Author:** ![Fu-Pow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/fu-pow/32/107_2.png) [@Fu-Pow](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Fu-Pow)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/12 "2007-03-29T22:40:45Z")

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I hate to say it but I see some similiarity between kung fu and…

[http://stovebend.us/isu/veisha/sca3.jpg](http://stovebend.us/isu/veisha/sca3.jpg)

[http://www.hawkcreek.org/images/festival/dudes\_lar.jpg](http://www.hawkcreek.org/images/festival/dudes_lar.jpg)

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/13 "2007-03-29T22:41:27Z")

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Look, if you don’t DEMAND more from your MMA teachers, you’re not going to get more.

And most of them say, “Okay, study here or quit.” So the only option is to quit.

Otherwise you’re rewarding them for being liars and cheaters and sucky teachers.

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**Author:** ![rogue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/rogue/32/30_2.png) [@rogue](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/rogue)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/14 "2007-03-29T22:42:16Z")

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> I hate to say it but I see some similiarity between kung fu and…

[http://stovebend.us/isu/veisha/sca3.jpg](http://stovebend.us/isu/veisha/sca3.jpg)

Three guys in shorts and baseball caps?😕

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/15 "2007-03-29T22:43:05Z")

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[QUOTE=rogue;749541]Three guys in short and baseball caps?😕[/QUOTE]

Society for Creative Anachronisms … pretending that they’re in the middle ages.

This is perhaps the first seemingly intelligent thing that Fu Pow has said on here.

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**Author:** ![rogue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/rogue/32/30_2.png) [@rogue](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/rogue)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/16 "2007-03-29T22:43:54Z")

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They wore shorts and baseball caps in the middle ages?😕

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/17 "2007-03-29T22:46:10Z")

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[QUOTE=neilhytholt;749538]So basically you’re saying that the teachers suck (and are liars), but still go to them. I don’t really like that sentiment.[/QUOTE]

I did not say that. They are two different thoughts. That is why there is a line between them. They are not connected.

The second has an assumption. The assumption is that the kung fu style is taught correctly.

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/18 "2007-03-29T22:46:56Z")

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[QUOTE=rogue;749544]They wore shorts and baseball caps in the middle ages?😕[/QUOTE]

lol!!!🙂

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**Author:** ![neilhytholt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@neilhytholt](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/neilhytholt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/19 "2007-03-29T22:48:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Flying-Monkey;749546]I did not say that. They are two different thoughts. That is why there is a line between them. They are not connected.

The second has an assumption. The assumption is that the kung fu style is taught correctly.[/QUOTE]

Whatever… this is another useless discussion.

In other news, Iran captured 15 British soldiers … so when are we going to war, or will they give them up peaceful like?

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**Author:** ![Flying-Monkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/flying-monkey/32/718_2.png) [@Flying-Monkey](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Flying-Monkey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-kung-fu-reminds-me-of/39322/20 "2007-03-29T22:50:36Z")

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They were my thoughts. If they do not interest you, that is ok.

what style do you do, neilhytholt?

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