What does the Shaolin temple think of Bruce Lee?

Now if this isn’t an article that should be run in a future issue of “Inside Kung Fu” or similar mag–I don’t know what is!! Get interviews from monks and grandmaster’s in the REAL Shaolin
temple(s) and ask their honest-no b.s opinions on Lee, his Jeet Kune Do and wether or not they agree or disagree with his philosophies and why. It would be a sellout issue!!

both shaolin and bruce are dead. Move on

If your not bleeding, your not having enough fun.

8stepsifu

…just out of curiosity (sp?), have you ever been to the Shaolin temple? As I heard there are alot of ‘fake’ monks there.. the grandmaster sure is. But In the backyards and in the shaolin village there are REAL kung fu sifus. They have a few schools wich are quite large.

So I don’t think that the temple is dead. Who cares if they have ‘traditional’ training at the temple… They still train for like, 4 hours a day. (something that I doubt that many in the west does)

just a thought.
~K~
:cool:

and i don’t really care so much for Bruce..
come on man, may he rest in peace all ready!

Shaolin are not dead

Well some have survived, they’re just relocated outside China.

As to what the Shaoin think of Bruce, they don’t.
By western standards, bruce was ahead of his time with regard to the martial art conditioning, but in comparison to Shaolin masters he was out of his league.

I believe that good Shaolin practitioners took off and preserved it. What was in China was either too amateur to bother with or was executed. The “Shaolin” I’m talkin about is the kind of crap that produces Shi Yan Ming…Did you see his blackbelt article? What kind of a kung fu practitioner that talks about chi kung goes around with his abs flexed. His article exposed him as a know nothing pretty wushu boy with no real kung fu. I agree, Bruce was awesome for the USA in the 70’s but has nothing on a Shaolin Master. How could he? He was limited to his own experience. Shaolin has a thousand year old history. The Shaolin Temple no longer produces the best kung fu fighters, private kwoons around the world do. And bruce Lee is dead and he wasn’t spectacular to begin with, we just didn’t know any better.

If your not bleeding, your not having enough fun.

“WHO CARES ?!”

NO ROAD IS AS LONG OR FILLED WITH AS MANY OBSTACLES AS THE ONE TRAVELLED BY THE CHINESE BOXER. FEW ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT . THOSE THAT REACH IT’S END ARE EVEN FEWER.

Shaolin is today a tourisme industry and Bruce Lee is a dead movie star so…

C’est la vie!

shaolin temple

ive been there 4 times, and i can tell you that its all wushu and NO ONE their knows real kung fu.
i have been there to buy weapons and to see china and to train in the south but went there to see and experience the temple. i even done a demo for the monks there.

the so called monks put a demo on for me and about 10 other people that where there, much like the travelling monks that are putting on shows around the world. it is wushu nothing more nothing less, and the iron palm monks that breaks the bricks, the bricks where very poor because i went behind the temple where the bricks were keeped that they use for the show and i picked it and punched it in half it was like sand.

hey these guys are good a wushu but its not real kung fu when they use fake props to make themselves look good.

all in all it is a beautiful temple and china is awsome. the weapons are so cheap, uniforms and painting etc. i will go back with my students on a trip again one day. :smiley:

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

to 8stepsifu

yep, I believe in another thread I posted something to the effect of the Shaolin masters leaving between 1928-1933. It is hard to come by, but it is out there, however most of the systems have died. If you do find it, no one will believe you anyway. Just so we are clear I am no fan of Shi Yan Ming or the crap coming out of Shaolin temple.

by the way

Bruce Lee did encounter a real Shaolin master, interresting story.

To tell the truth I don’t even think they ever heard of bruce lee.

“Always be ready”

To tell the truth I don’t even think they ever heard of bruce lee or his art.

“Always be ready”

Just about every Shaolin Monk I’ve ever seen has been a wushu athlete who couldn’t make it on to a pro level team. The forms I’ve seen are usually modern routines muddied up to look more traditional. At least that’s what I’ve seen in every documentary I’ve watched. Also occasionaly a Pro team member will shave their head and go to the temple to teach the monks for a while. This may not be the case anymore since there’s a much larger student base now than there was when the temple was 1st renovated.

Anyway, back to the topic, I remember reading an article where a former monk said something about Bruce Lee being one of his idols. So I asume they know about him :slight_smile:

Ask the Shaolin monks directly.

I’m sure that they would answer.

Again-why can’t anyone answer the question as asked?

“Shaolin is a tourism industry and Bruce Lee is a dead movie star” so C’est La Vie.

This statement needs to be commented on. First of all, Bruce was a martial artist FIRST and a movie actor SECOND! MOST kung fu founders of the original styleS are DEAD…does that mean that the martial arts community says “Sorry-we can’t study the style–nor can we comment on the founder or the system–just because..they’re dead”? No-of course not!! Other people remarked that Bruce Lee couldn’t hold a candle to a shaolin monk..I assume you mean that he would get his ass kicked eh? I wasn’t asking that either. I asked rather rhetorically if anyone agreed that it would be an interesting feature story.

given that Shaolin have been in the US for over 50 years

Don’t look to the Temple for Shaolin kung fu.

Some buisness men of a Tong brought Bruce into the catacombs of San Francisco, Where he was introduced to Master Lo (last of the White eyebrow masters) and another master who will remain nameless.

??

Thanks for your input-but please explain how him being introduced to a White Eyebrow master relates to what Shaolin(the temple) or Shaolin(as in the remaining genuine monks and not impostors) has to say about him and JKD?

monks are no more

You asked what the Shaolin thought of Bruce,

My response was that they thought nothing of him.

He was basically to impatient to study the so called “traditional” systems. They were not impressed by his ability because in their eyes he was a novice.

The Shaolin temple has been void of Shaolin monks for 70 years. Having left the monastary and China they ceased being monks and those with the information of the shaolin systems do not call themselves monks.

As for the current Shaolin practioners, some like his movies, some don’t, and pretty much none aspire to be like him, they’re seeking what is far beyond what he was capable of.

If you don’t see the relevance of Bruce meeting a Shaolin master and what traspired, not correlating
to your question, you are beyond my help.

the shaolin village?

I read in a article about the authors trip to the shaolin temple. He made it clear that most of the ‘kung fu’ that were trained there was modern wushu. BUT, there was the real deal too! It was just very hard to find becouse every ‘monk’ were the same funny looking robes :smiley: But after he talked and trained to alot of monks, he stumbeld across a chinese who did traditional kung fu. The author was pretty sure that this man came from the shaolin village…

In the article, he writes that in the shaolin village there are strictly traditional schools of kung fu.
He also writes that alot of people look down on the temple just becouse they are not what they used to be, but the training there is very extreme , so does it really matter when u are getting the work out of a life time :smiley: ??

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soooo, about the village??? Is that true??? :confused:

        ~K~

the super-duper supreme