I study Wing Chun…dont need much room.
Joe
always try to control the space between you and your opponet with chair even a weapon if you have like a cane are those chains that kids were on their pants are anything to control the space between you and your assailant to keep him at a distance always make sure that if you need to run their is an opening and last if he has friends try to keep them all on one side so they can’t jump you from all directions
I urinate and sh!t myself. Incredible repellent effect. Leart it from a huntin possums.
Jon Wayne Taylor
If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV
Haha
Quincy..usualy when your swinging a chain at some one it means your going to fight …plus chains take to long to get off your pants..by then your head will be in the pavement,because if some one your up against acsualy has common sence he isnt going to stand there and let you unhook th chain from your wallet/pants..get my drift.
Joe
Wet behind the ears!
I’m not insulting anyone, just asking you to uestion your own experience. From my reading of this posting and a previous one entitled “what would be your first offensive technique in a street battle” I take it not a lot of you have been in many battles on the pavement arena. I would urge you to look at the posting by ghostdog on the prior thread. you have alot to learn about confrontation outside the controlled envioronment of the kwoon, dojo, ring or training hall. Stick at it. 
“And the crowd called out for more”
Wet behind the ears!
I’m not insulting anyone, just asking you to question your own experience. From my reading of this posting and a previous one entitled “what would be your first offensive technique in a street battle” I take it not a lot of you have been in many battles on the pavement arena. I would urge you to look at the posting by ghostdog on the prior thread. you have alot to learn about confrontation outside the controlled envioronment of the kwoon, dojo, ring or training hall. Stick at it.
“And the crowd called out for more”
Who are you talking about..i hope not me…i think i know a fair amount on that stuff.
Joe
Being a bouncer for many years I found that is you keep your voice in a mild tone and don’t say anything threating people tend to back down. But don’t sound like a wimp of people could see that as weakness. Keep you body lang. relaxed and non-threating but also ready to go if need be. If you need to put your hands on someone to back them up or something, use the back of you hands, by putting you hands on the with your palm, it is much more threating.
“”“”“”“If you need to put your hands on someone to back them up or something, use the back of you hands, by putting you hands on the with your palm, it is much more threating.”“”“”"…could you reword it for me,please?,i dont realy understand what that ment..i know what your saying about the additude part because thats how i am before a fight…once some one knows what they are up against they loose 50% of there confidence,gives you a greater chance of winning and them a easyer target..the 50% thing isnt acurate though because everyone thinks differently…but please explan that again…you totaly lost me when you said the hands thing.
Joe
[This message was edited by Martial Joe on 02-14-01 at 10:13 PM.]
No problem, usually when a person puts their hands on someone’s chest it is palms towards the person, this can be viewed as threating because you could grag them. Put the back of your hands on their chestm this is much less threating.
I’ll show you the back of my hand me lad !
Hi Joe,
My Karate Sensei, who is a notorious street fighter, used to use the back of his hand to measure the exact distance to his opponents before it kicked off, a none threatening manner but able to guage the others reaction, bridging the gap almost fuk sau. Personally I have always used the knife hand / palm heel, either as a ‘don’t want any trouble mate’ or as an aggresive smash to the sternum / clavicle. as per the Peter Consterdine / Geoff Thompson approach. Just on a side note, Peter Consterdine is a training buddy / contempory of my own sensei, a karateka for real, and also trains in wing chun. 
“And the crowd called out for more”
What do you mean by he uses the back of his hand to mesure the distance?
that’s only happened to me once in the last 5 years.. and before then I don’t remember many.. it was this crazy crackhead bum.. I just started walking away from him slowly..
Martial Joe, I think oldwolf might mean his Sensei uses the “back of his hand to measure distance” like us Wing Chun guys would use Man Sau (seeking hand).
“Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous.” – Confucious
seeking hands
Spot on watchman
“And the crowd called out for more”