I gave you dictionary on the apostrophes !!! :mad: 
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by blooming lotus
I gave you dictionary on the apostrophes !!! :mad:
No, you didn’t! You sent me a link via pm that actually backed up our argument on the apostrophe and not yours. When I questioned you about that by pm and on the public board you neglected to clarify.
you asked me not to pm you.. what d’you want me to disrespect your wishes??? Everyone else got the link!!!
Reference 1. Another. Another. Another. Another. Another. I could probably keep finding links ad nauseum, but it makes no difference - you refuse to learn for some bizarre reason.
Yes, we all saw the link. And it confirmed what we had been trying to tell you and demonstrated that YOU were wrong. You, however, denied it and said we just didn’t look far enough in the link. :rolleyes:
Flogs dead horse
Your “link” was posted by Serpent in the Tibetan Qigong thread. Here were the most relevant lines:
“Helen’s laugh
Charles’ cooking”
You jumped on “Charles’ cooking” because that apparently proved your case :rolleyes:. I then informed you that words that end in “s” have the apostrophe after the “s” when pluralising (sp?). I then asked you to explain “Helen’s laugh”, which you couldn’t. Kind of undermined your argument. “Helen is laugh”? “Helen was laugh”? Or “The laugh of Helen”, i.e. “Helen’s laugh”?
or at the wrong one. I already told you, there are two sides to every story and usually you’ll find a link or 5 on each, but 1 plays 100 for rescource link is xingku, and right now, and previously and maybe even for a bit more, I’m just a little busy! 
As always, when she’s losing a discussion, she gets “a little busy”. No time to talk now! LOL!!!
And yes, there are as you say, 2 sides to this matter. There is right and there is you. And no, there aren’t any links to support your claim.
So you’re saying that every dictionary link I show you, plus the Concise Oxford Dictionary 10th Ed that I once referenced are all wrong? You think it’s a global conspiracy of people trying to trick you into believing possessive apostrophe usage exists?
That about sums it up! 
Toby,
Apostrophies can be used in a variety of ways. As long as the meaning gets across, it shouldn’t matter so much as how it’s used. If it’s passive, possessive etc. shouldn’t really matter. Afterall, language used on the net can be somewhat different to other written media. There is so much abreviations like OMG, BTW, IMO etc, that we are the active creator of rules as opposed to followrers of rules. So I agree with what BL had to say.
Of course you agree with what bl had to say. You agree with everything she says no matter how incorrect. But then you also have your nose up her butt like the little puppy dog you are.
You’re a crappy troll, Kelvin.
Originally posted by blooming lotus
[B]and produced links to support my usage !!! :rolleyes:
look boys, you’ll likely never get how my hardships brought mehere and to gene, and how his sexual bs ( while I was looking for spiritual solice) brought me to desire confirmation of integrity and consequentially to a china I can’t leave from. So I’m going to leave this here and wish you all well on your own paths…
cheers and dharma
BL [/B]
no, you didn’t.
Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
Apostrophies can be used in a variety of ways… So I agree with what BL had to say.
Coming from another semi-literate know-it-all.
Nobody’s arguing that the net doesn’t have its own jargon, which is maybe a valid literary form in its own right and certainly a valid communication tools. However BL was arguing (and teaching ‘her kids’ and ‘her university’ students) that the apostrophe was only used as an abbreviation of ‘is’ and some utter bollocks which I’ve forgotten about the placement of the apostrophe in the possessive. It was completely wrong, and proven so by Toby and myself and Ironfist and Serpent and several others who are usually not overly anti-Lotus with logic, examples and links to dictionary pages, grammar pages and real books.
So don’t just jump in and defend something unless you’ve bothered to read the background and know what you’re defending.
BL - where do you get the idea that there are two sides to everything? When dealing with anything that has rules (grammar) you will usually find that there is correct and incorrect. You have been given evidence from a variety of credible sources that proves you are wrong. Find _one_single_credible_source (a dictionary for example) that supports your point of view. I could go as far as to say BL’s point of view. That’s the possesive use, whereas in this sentence I am using the contractive use. See? It’s easy.
Ego - Grammar and punctuation provide the meaning behind the words we use. Disregarding punctuation, or deciding that it can mean whatever you feel like, lead to a morass of confusion and obfuscated meaning. Anyone who has an interest in correctly conveying their meaning to another must use the rules of English grammar. BL should know this having studied NLP - the responsibility for the meaning of any communication lays entirely with the person communicating.
It was completely wrong, and proven so by Toby and myself and Ironfist and Serpent and several others who are usually not overly anti-Lotus with logic, examples and links to dictionary pages, grammar pages and real books.
I think I’m included in there somewhere.
Wasn’t overtly anti-bl to begin with. Hell, still not anti-bl… just anti-bl-bs.
I do have an editor, and I do publish at least one article a fortnight. Sometimes I have typoes (sp? how does one spell the plural of typo?) but I am a professional writer who doesn’t get picked up on too many of them.
And for the record, I drink much more than bl says that she does. Also for the record, I’ve been “classed” as a “genius” (see, I can spell it even…) since I was a kid. Means sweet naff all. Whoopdeefrickindoo.
I never got an offer from Ralph to model for them for $10000 though.
(Incidentally, to relate this to kung fu, or at least the MAs.. anyone seen the Nov. '04 issue of Ralph? It has a couple of vaguely interesting articles in it.)
omg, when did this forum turn into a gathering of raging grammarians?!
I thought it was bad etiquette to argue grammar in a forum?
lol:p
Mat / Kaitain(UK)
The English language is evolving and the use of apostrographics is the least of the many inconsistencies with spelling and pronounciation. Whether the dash is placed before or after the s or somewhere in between the word, should be ok in terms of bringing the information across to the reader. You can work out what the meaning in the broader context of the text / article.
Yes, the English language is constantly evolving. No, that doesn’t mean that it is ok to make mistakes. It certainly doesn’t make it ok to make mistakes, insist that your mistakes are the correct way, and consistently ignore and refute evidence that is presented that proves that you have made a mistake.
If you have something worth saying, then it is incumbent upon you to say it in a manner that is easily understood, unambiguous and clear in it’s presentation.
I don’t pick up on people’s grammar on this or any other forum (except on www.anal-grammar.com/forums) - when someone puts forward a clearly incorrect interpretation of the correct use for an apostrophe, then it is acceptable to point out that they are wrong rather than allow the propogation of ignorance.
Everyone makes mistakes, the trick is in wanting to correct oneself when the mistakes are pointed out. E.g. my girlfriend pointed out that I say “I look forwards to meeting you” instead of “I look forward to meeting you”. I could have either blithely continued in my ignorance, or I could have corrected myself. I chose the latter. I take the same attitude to everything I do - if something is wrong, correct it.