# What are the similarities between Wing Chun and Ngo Cho Kun ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\ **Created:** [September 7, 2002, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842 "2002-09-07T05:35:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@pitbull](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/pitbull)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/21 "2003-07-09T02:59:30Z")
my dog is doing a GREAT job minding the litter…im just over excited specially when i see puppies walking around 🙂 they arent stocky? hmmm…im starting to think that im not 100% chinese… joe: how would u guard against WC? those fast medium hard blows are wuite annoying arent they 😉 ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/22 "2003-07-09T03:10:56Z")
Your build may also depend on the region that your ancestors came from. I am also stocky, and that is a trait of the Hokkien people. Maybe Yip Man and his students are of a different region? (I don’t know much about Yip Man so I can’t say :)). Also, diet can make a big difference. Hard to say how to counter Wing Chun as my experience was limited to 30-60 minutes watching Dez and mucking around with him. I would say there are two tactics I would consider 1) long, heavy punches to blast through or 2) stick to their arms as much as you can and use your sensitivity to counter their movement. I would advocate sticking mainly because it is the best way to slow down a faster opponent, and most people are faster than me ☹ 😃 Remember to keep your elbows tucked in though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@pitbull](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/pitbull)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/23 "2003-07-09T08:00:32Z")
joe: my ancestors came from fujien as well :-)…my fater side relatives are quite tall…i think i inherited my mother side’s physical build 🙂 well,at least i can take more punishment than they do 😉 aaaah..thanks for the tips 😉 ---
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/24 "2003-07-09T13:51:12Z")
size isn’t an issue. Some WC peeps claim that it was made for girls but I don’t buy it, especialy not in china. It works well for smaller people because it doesn’t rely on strength or size, it uses your structure, sensitivity and root to overcome power, speed, strength. In theory anyway. I’m 210lbs, and stocky and I have found that all of the people I have touched hands with who I outweighed by about 20 lbs or so couldn’t stop me. Could be a level of skill thing but size does matter. As for stopping WC people, get em talking about wing chun, or other lineages, or just claim your art is better then theirs. 😉 In reality there are no quick and easy methods for stopping any art. In theory the long form arts have a problem dealing with the infighting styles but a good long form guy knows how to keep the range where he wants it. So the best way to beat a wing chun guy is to practice and be better then him. ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/25 "2003-07-09T16:50:53Z")
> As for stopping WC people, get em talking about wing chun, or other lineages, or just claim your art is better then theirs. > They already tried that and it didnt work on me 🆒 dawood ---
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/26 "2003-07-09T16:54:18Z")
yes but that is because you practice an inferior lineage of wingchun. Your lineage has been altered/modified so that it isn’t as effective as my wing chun. We all know also that Yip Man did not teach your master wingchun, he bought it on the internet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/27 "2003-07-09T20:48:34Z")
its not working man sorry 🆒 dawood ---
**Author:** ![red5angel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/red5angel/32/219_2.png) [@red5angel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/red5angel)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/28 "2003-07-09T21:47:57Z")
call yourself a wingchun man… ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/29 "2003-07-09T23:42:02Z")
Yeah, I don’t know how Dez can publicly call himself a Wing Chun man. We sat there and for about an hour over dinner we tried to get him into a lineage debate but he just sat there and smiled! Wing Chun indeed! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/30 "2003-07-10T14:36:28Z")
actually i AM a wing chun man - i didnt sit and smile i sat and ATE 🆒 dawood [SIZE=1]ps: u cant touch this[/SIZE] 😉 ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2003, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/31 "2003-07-10T23:04:06Z")
> Originally posted by dezhen2001 > [B]actually i AM a wing chun man - i didnt sit and smile i sat and ATE 🆒 dawood [Size=1]ps: u cant touch this[SIZE] 😉 [/B] Ahhhh, then your kung fu needs work because even though I talked I still ate more than you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/32 "2003-07-10T23:42:53Z")
thats debateable mate - i was eating for 2 as _she_ was not wanting to eat too much 🙂 dawood ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/33 "2003-07-11T01:28:39Z")
> Originally posted by dezhen2001 > [B]thats debateable mate - i was eating for 2 as _she_ was not wanting to eat too much 🙂 dawood [/B] C’mon, you saw the pile of chicken bones on my plate by the end of the meal. Easily the biggest pile 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/34 "2003-07-11T16:30:20Z")
i ate most of the smaller bones 😛 dawood ---
**Author:** ![pitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@pitbull](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/pitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/35 "2003-08-12T14:05:11Z")
JOEDOE: help me activate my account over at vital points! thanks! ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/36 "2003-08-15T05:28:57Z")
> Originally posted by pitbull > JOEDOE: help me activate my account over at vital points! thanks! From what I can see your account is OK. There isn’t anything else I can do - you might need to contact one of the others as I can only administer the Ngor Chor forum. Try contacting tatsujin. ---
**Author:** ![pitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@pitbull](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/pitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/37 "2003-08-15T22:53:44Z")
thnks joedoe! u da man! about wingchun…a delegation from china visited us this week…i thought they are fellow wu zu quzn practitioners or people from south shaolin…i was puzzled when i was told that they are wing chun people…i dont know about what hey talked about w my teacher and club officers…maybe hey came to talk about the november soouth shaolin expo(i hope i will be sponsored to go) ---
**Author:** ![dezhen2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dezhen2001/32/222_2.png) [@dezhen2001](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/dezhen2001)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/38 "2003-08-16T14:10:01Z")
pitbull: i think there are some types of wing chun (different to yip man lineage) that do forms differently etc. Ask on the wing chun forum and i am sure you will get an answer 🙂 dawood ---
**Author:** ![joedoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@joedoe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/joedoe)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/39 "2003-08-18T01:40:49Z")
Pitbull Did you see them practice at all? What made you think they were Ngor Chor practitioners? ---
**Author:** ![pitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e56c9b/32.png) [@pitbull](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/pitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842/40 "2003-08-19T03:37:17Z")
i havent seen them practice…almost every foreign visitor to our club are usually nck pratitioners… [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/what-are-the-similarities-between-wing-chun-and-ngo-cho-kun/14842.md?page=3)