My friend, you need not be upset about this faceless and brainless master wannabe. Virtually all great masters including 2 of my Sigungs are drug addicts according to him and his secret lineage BS. Read his other posts and you see what I mean. Think of him as the brother of Word (sorry Word) would be an insult to Word. I feel sorry for those who are supposedly his students since the biggest secret of his teaching is to take drug and forget about practice. What a rip off. He’s properly high while posting. So don’t worry about him and his comments.
You have got to be kidding me? This Twink teaches martial arts?
I never stated that the Seals still use the RAT program but that at one point the program was used and crafted for the SEAL teams by Vunack on order from N.E. Huston, Commander of the U.S. Navy.
The program is used now with the San Diego DEA/Narcotics Task Force and the FBI Special Enforcement Team as well as numerous other local law enforcement agencies.
Roy Harris, V.P. of PFS has just returned last week from teaching the Polish Army and Polsih Tactical Police Units CQC JKDC combat methods.
Where are your references numbnuts???
Vunack can supply a list of American and European military and civilan references that seem endless as compared to your school??
What system do you even teach…******* Fu or Jerk Off Chuan?
hep thats right i do jkd (jerk off chaun). jkd today is not what bruce lee put together. vunak should call it wing chun,silat,arnis vunak style. they totally destroyed bruce lee, made a goose out of him and his jkd.i have no respect for jkd people the are living off a name and a movie star. thats all folks!!
go and toss off else where on your jkd thread BLACK JACK. PLAY YOUR BONGO DRUMS LIKE VUNAK, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
[QUOTE=;14252]hep thats right i do jkd (jerk off chaun). jkd today is not what bruce lee put together. vunak should call it wing chun,silat,arnis vunak style. they totally destroyed bruce lee, made a goose out of him and his jkd.i have no respect for jkd people the are living off a name and a movie star. thats all folks!!
go and toss off else where on your jkd thread BLACK JACK. PLAY YOUR BONGO DRUMS LIKE VUNAK, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!![/QUOTE]
Bruce was an actor and nothing else. His jkd is not really much more than flash. He did a great deal of movie gung fu, and that is what it was. He was about making money, and he glorified himself and his gung fu.
He used tense units to work out. He didn’t want to spend valuable time doing physical training, so he would attach the tense units to his abdomen and his pecs and let them do the work for him while he did other things. I call that smart training.
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;1172325]Bruce was an actor and nothing else. His jkd is not really much more than flash. He did a great deal of movie gung fu, and that is what it was. He was about making money, and he glorified himself and his gung fu.
He used tense units to work out. He didn’t want to spend valuable time doing physical training, so he would attach the tense units to his abdomen and his pecs and let them do the work for him while he did other things. I call that smart training.[/QUOTE]
Not an accurate description or reasoning for Bruce’s use of a trans-cutaneous electrical nerve stimulation unit. Although the chuckle from “tense units” made reading your post worth it.
When I look at his views of MA before he was 25, there are some that I do not agree to. The reasons are that he did not understand some of the styles fully including Wing Chun. He did admit that he had not mastered the style yet. Understood that he had moved to U.S.A. before he completed his Wing Chun training. It is human nature to make mistake even one knows the mistake well. For example, forever looking for new ways to improve his MA and physical condition is going to extreme. IMHO, a person should have achieved his full potential in MA after 15 years of regular training. After that, maintaining his skill level will be the more important priority (because of the aging effect).
Well, with only one movie scene, he was responsible for the appearance of Chinese spare ribs on the menus of Chinese restaurants all over the world (especially where Black people lived) and responsible for the shift from Chinese “Eat In” restaurants to “Take Out Only” in Black neighborhoods.
He was an actor who unapologetically lifted and used concepts wholesale from Chinese philosophy w/out attribution, passing it off as if he was this bottomless font of ancient hoary wisdom (e.g. - his whole “be like water, my friend” interview); I mean, hey, whatever, he had mouths to feed so he gave people what they wanted…
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1172662]He was an actor who unapologetically lifted and used concepts wholesale from Chinese philosophy w/out attribution, passing it off as if he was this bottomless font of ancient hoary wisdom (e.g. - his whole “be like water, my friend” interview); I mean, hey, whatever, he had mouths to feed so he gave people what they wanted…[/QUOTE]
I believe he did such because he believed in them, rather than simply wrapping his art in Chinese trappings giftwrap.
when i read more about him i think he was a young chinese man living at a time where chinese people werent welcome in america, and wanted to prove himself and change the public perception, showing chienese people as fighters and warriors.
[QUOTE=Subitai;14245]Am I the only one willing to admit the classic cliche? I was 5 yrs old and my mom took me along w/ my older brother and sister to see a Bruce flick and i’ve been a Gung Fu lover ever since.
As for the JKD concepts, I like em. They are all sound ideas. NOT anything that hadn’t already existed, but sound concepts put together in a nice package that an individual can personally blossom from.
Gung Fu is hard work. If a JKD guy is working his but off at what he does then he deserves the same respect that other MA’s do.
I believe that Bruces hard work and concept put together can help everybody.
However I also believe that only he was the real Pinacle of his “Style” (using the word “style” for lack of a better one)
All the JKD guys train their attributes. But I have not seen any of the big dogs INSPIRE ME w/ the same AWE and raw energy that you could see in Bruce. He was truely a diamond in the rough.
The only guys i’ve seen come close to his almost supernatural speed and power were a few Shaolin Monks that I had the pleasure of training w/ in 1998 at Sil Lum temple.
I’m not saying Bruce was unbeatable, but who can argue w/ me that he had his moments to inspire us all?
“O”[/QUOTE] O , I agree with you too , I mean theres’ no question about it he was the greatest martial artist who ever lived . Ofcoarse like you mentioned O you trained with a few shaolin monks who came close to bruces’ abilities , but can never be better than bruce , that ’ s the way I see too . I ’ ve seen his movies many times and documentry DVDs on bruce many times , he was the greatest . Although he ’ s already dead , he still inspired people anyway .
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1172662]He was an actor who unapologetically lifted and used concepts wholesale from Chinese philosophy w/out attribution, passing it off as if he was this bottomless font of ancient hoary wisdom (e.g. - his whole “be like water, my friend” interview); I mean, hey, whatever, he had mouths to feed so he gave people what they wanted…[/QUOTE]
In all fairness, he happened to be in a time and place when our general culture was eating and drinking at the table of hegemony. Even today you see guys in western culture who identify with several cultures other than their own.
Bruce assisted in forwarding those ideas that were not in the mainstream consciousness at the time.
You, and others like you went deeper, found out more and even sourced some of what Bruce was talking about and found that the font of wisdom was elsewhere.
Well, that’s pretty much true of all of us to some extent.
No point in being bitter in hindsight. At least he put some stuff on the table for those who chose to, to dig deeper if they cared to.
It’s much like Tony Robbins or Wayne Dyer or any number of other Oprah celebs. They draw on the older teachings and present them with a fresh tongue. Consequently the quirk of celebrity worship causes people to think that these individuals are the source. If they invest the time, they’ll come to know different.
It is repulsive, I agree, but everybody is at where they are at.
[QUOTE=Paul Skrypichayko;14230]My view of Lee Siu Long (Bruce Lee) is that he is highly over rated. Sure he may have trained hard, but did he train “smart”? Did he know anything about internal training, did he bring anything new to martial arts? It doesn’t seem like it.
Because he was the first real martial arts star in the west, he is idolized by many people.[/QUOTE]
Paul , bruce learned wu style tai chi from his father and he had internal training .
He did train smart , that ’ s why he was the greatest . Paul did you write a book before on kung fu ? And Paul if you ever read all the materials like books on bruce all written by people who know him , they ’ ll tell you that he was the greatest .
Everything about bruce is all comming out into the open , through books and new documentries being produced by the people who really knew about him . I ’ m sure you saw his JKD book who did ’ nt . His book contained his own research and investigation on his own art . And JKD was around from the time he began to develop it until the day he died . If you don ’ t know that , then where were you ?
Just because you don ’ t like bruce don ’ t condemn him . If you can do better than him lets see it , then we ’ ll shut up .
