wierd sensations? 
Like what?
and where can i get some purple paralyzer?
"donât give me no bammer weed, donât smoke that $hit in the SFC (Sucka Free Cityâor San Francisco, same thing!)
big props to all herbalists, its gods gift to man.
matter of fact, hold on ------that hit was for my folks (cough! cough! Choke) god******, call the ambulance my head done fell off.
hsk
Good theory. Iâve heard the stronger the drug, the more intense the chi experience. Just watch out for acid as you can also experience a bad chi day as well.
I wonder if the UFC will catch on? Smoke some weed and let the chi balls fly in the octagon.
Greetings..
Like any herb, cannibis has useful attributes.. routine recreational use, however, will contradict the more useful benefits.. suggested use is as a âsacrementâ, occasional and with reverence for the energies it enhances.. iâve known too many stoners that eventually decline into couch potatos hypnotized by the music and their own hands.. stronger psychoactive substances (natural, of course) should only be used infrequently, with clarity and purpose, not for recreation.. mood or mind altering substances are generally not conducive to good training, but may serve a more esoteric goal.. that, ultimately, compliments oneâs journey.. in such matters consult herbalists, masters, and shamans.. and, use good common sense..
Be well..
As it messes with your equilibrium, Iâd say weed is not good for chi circulation. If it happens to relieve some tight muscles and allows some trapped chi to escape I would say that was a fortunate happenstance.
huo ma hua revisited
itâs funny⌠the olâ cannabis thread pops up now and again. Iâd have to agree most with TaiChiBob - moderation is the key to success with just about anything.
Chinese medicine acknowledges the mind as a possible genesis of a disease state. As such, the use of âjah herbâ can relax a mind fixated on events and release emotional states and thus relax the body - when the body is relaxed, the Qi will flow smoothly. On the other end of the spectrum, cannabis is not for everyone, as some will become more tense or distracted, thus disrupting the smooth flow of Qi. Herb is best taken as a sacrament with a clear mind. A clouded mind will only grow more cloudy after smokingâŚ
Just my dime-bagâs worth (âŚoops, did I say that? I meant 2 centsâŚ)
peace
herb ox
I agree with the ,ast post whole heardedtly. It can make you way more tense, or even nervous if attacked on the street.
On the side note
Did you guys know that it prevents heart disease and diabetes. That was just rescently discovered by scientists. I read about it in either Popular Science or Discover Magazine. I canât remember which, but I know it was last month.
hmmm⌠youâre sure it wasnât High Times? 
stoners can never remember anythingâŚ
âŚnow what was I sayinâ? Oh nevermindâŚ
Thereâs been a lot of work in psychotropics and zen - itâs a surprisingly long tradition.
One of Tricycleâs best selling issues was there psychedelic specialâŚhmmm, maybe thatâs what Kung Fu Tai Chi needs⌠
Seriously, the best work on the subject now in my mind is Zig Zag Zen - which contains essays from many Zen thinkers and psychotropic advernturers. My personal take on the matter tends to agree with many of those writers in that volume - students who indulge in psychedelics do tend to progress faster to a point. But, and this is a big one, they tend to plateau and never make the big final leaps. There are exceptions, of course. Who can forget the Zen Haiku master Bassho and his odes to marijuana? I think there is something fundamental in practice that cannot be short cut, just like in Kung fu. Sure, an external âdanâ like steroids may get you somewhere faster, but without the spiritual underpinning of hard work, it lets you down in the end. Then, there is Master Shuzanâs famous answer to the koan âWhat is the mind of the ancient buddhas?â - his answer - âthree catties of hempâ.
Sorry, what were we talking about again?
letâs see⌠whoa! three catties of hemp is roughly equal to 58 ounces! :eek:
Better start your Zen practice now!
herb ox
anyone know any cool taoist pipe fighting forms?
psychoactive drugs are great for showing us whatâs possible, BUTâŚ
the drug experience is dependent on the drug. we have within us these possibilities already, we only have to figue out how to turn on the switch without the chemical assistance! pot can show you the door, but can you go thru without the weed, or will you just smoke all the time and hang out on the doorstep? all the good stuff can be yours, if you just allow it for yourself.
âItâs like a finger pointing away to the moon. Donât concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory.â
-Bruce Lee
As they say too much of anything can be bad. so like was just stated on certain occasions it can help alleviate things that may block oneâs qi.
how does one know anything about oneâs self or oneâs chi experience, one one one..
Because i practice chi-kung any way, and i know what it feels like to have chi running through the body, however, not as strong as i felt after i had smoked, i have reduced my smoking to once a week, so hopefully, with a bit of chi-kung in between, that chi will be racing around like a bat outta hell,
the weird sensations someone asked about was just the buzzing/fuzzy feeling of chi all over and the room spinning, haha.
cool.
the hza
what kind of TCM can you use to clean out the lungs from the effects of too much herb smoke?
I agree with qiphlow!!
If we think of certain areas of the mind as located behind a locked door, psycho-active substances are a key that may allow us to see what is on the other side of the door. Once we see what is on the other side of the door we can become preoccupied with reliving the experience and continue using artificial means to regain temporary access. The benefit is increased knowledge; the negative consequence, our dependence on artificialities for the experience and the negative physical after effects.
It is like looking out a window and seeing a beautiful sunny day, but not being allowed out of doors! I have knowledge of the beautiful day, but I am not out IN it! Perhaps on occasion (through artificial means) I am allowed outside to enjoy the nice day, but my excursion is only temporary! I may be left with a lasting impression, but I gain no significant permanent benefit. It is the free access to the out of doors that provides me with long lasting benefits. With free access I may venture outside whenever I wish and stay as long as I like, this it true freedom!
Consistent smooth Chi flow (barring illness or injury) is an effect of the mind. That is, it is a consequence of a mental state of being! It is not the knowledge of what is on the other side of the door that cultivates or sustains this mental state, nor is it fleeting, temporary experiences gained through artificial means. It is the ability to exist within this mental condition as a state of our being that sustains healthy consistent chi flow.
yo.. what bob said.
i used to wonder whether high level martial artists smoked weed too.
according to my training brother (who IS in the know concerning IMA
of taiwan) many if not most internal martial artists use some type of drug.
iâll never forget the eve i passed a doob to a certain well known ima teacher
who took a pull and then as we talked, complimented the quality (indicating
to me that he was somewhat of a conessieur)
iâd post names, but itâs not my placeâŚ
gene posted on this subject, but didnât really indicate whether or not
he smokes/smoked. looks like a stoner to me!
Greetings..
I have to agree that herbs, used too frequently, can become a hindrance to progress.. psychedelics are like an uncontrolled whirlwind tour of the potential of the the mind.. skilled meditation allows you be be in control of exploring your potential.. while herbs (ganja) may relax you sufficiently to have a decent meditational experience, it should be a âfinger pointing at the moonâ of possibility.. that you should be able to control your own experience without dependence on external methods..
I do not advocate use of mind altering substances as a substitute for self controlled experiences.. they may offer a glimpse of the potential you seek, like a travel brochure, but.. they are not the journey.. that journey is yours only when you can make it on your own.. so, if you want to see whatâs possible, a few brochures may help, but if all you do is look at âbrochuresâ the real journey never left the station..
I was definately a child of the sixties, i have seen more than my fair share of âbrochuresâ.. and, i can assure you that anything achievable by external stimuli is also available through self-discipline.. the mind is an unimaginably powerful tool, whether through drugs or self-discipline it is the mind that manifests the experience.. learn to use the mind at will, and drugs will become unnecessary.. an occasional brochure of unexplored territories, if one chooses.. and, even then, reverence for the guidance is appropriate..
Be well..
The brainâs cannabanoid system is not fully understood so it could be capable of many things and we have no way to prove against it right now with our (science community) limited understanding. So he may be on to something. Me I always smoke so I canât tell if itâs hurting me or helping me although I seem to do ok with my internal energy progression and had a 4.0 GPA in college. They also say that without a doubt it has many benefits to cancer although as I said before too much is bad and may just end up giving you lung cancer when smoked. They have also done a study and as far as lowering IQ goes it only takes of 4 points and you regain them if you stop for awhile. Best Regards.
bob, i think youâve got to seperate the issues of regular use to achieve a goal
or certain condition, as opposed to regular recreational use to have a laugh
with your friends and feel stupid. and then again, what is regular use?
once a week? day? on the hour?
everyone has a different body chemistry. for one guy, hersheyâs is chocolate
heaven in a silver wrapper, for another guy, itâs a night of hell on the porcelein
crapper. drugs like ritalin act one way in ânormalâ kids and another way in âADDâ
kids.
what the last guy said concerning his internal developement, and his studies in
school sounds a bit like my story. i never made Aâs nor was i interested in study
until i started smoking. i wonât say that iâve become âthe last dragonâ with my
martial arts, but iâve been able to focus for much longer periods of time. iâm
probably mildly autistic and so focus on one thing is a huge problem for me
if something more interesting happens to cross my mind.