# Wang Kiu has Passed Away **URL:** \ **Category:** Wing Chun\ **Created:** [May 13, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892 "2009-05-13T15:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![reneritchie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/reneritchie/32/181_2.png) [@reneritchie](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/reneritchie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/1 "2009-05-13T15:23:50Z")
Sad news. Sympathies and condolences to family, students, friends, and the community. Rene Begin forwarded message: > I have just been notified that: SiGung Wang Kiu, early “core” student of Yip Man (with Wong Shun Leung, Tsui Shung Tin, Lok Yiu), co-establisher of the famous challenge matches that built Yip’s school, writer of the articles publicizing these matches, private student, introducer of Wing Chun to the Netherlands, etc, etc, and my teacher, passed quietly today at about 11:15am local time, Den Haag. – Sao Jong (Hold the CenterLine) Herbert Maier, Ph.D. ---
**Author:** ![chusauli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@chusauli](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chusauli)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/2 "2009-05-13T15:47:50Z")
Amitofou! May he go to the Pure Land. ---
**Author:** ![Hendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/839c29/32.png) [@Hendrik](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Hendrik)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/3 "2009-05-13T15:51:02Z")
May Amitaba Buddha lead him to peace. ---
**Author:** ![yylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6a8cbe/32.png) [@yylee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yylee)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/4 "2009-05-13T18:51:52Z")
miss you sigong gonna miss his sharp and lightning fast hands, his vast volume of WCK stories (that no one in the planet can tell WCK stories better than he can) and his great sense of humour. ---
**Author:** ![Tensei85](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/tensei85/32/897_2.png) [@Tensei85](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Tensei85)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/5 "2009-05-13T20:29:17Z")
It’s definitely a sad day for the Wing Chun community. All the best through this hard time, and condolences to the family and friends. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Dugas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/dale_dugas/32/140_2.png) [@Dale\_Dugas](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Dale_Dugas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/6 "2009-05-13T20:45:38Z")
My respects to his family. Rest In Peace, Shifu ---
**Author:** ![Sihing73](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sihing73/32/33_2.png) [@Sihing73](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Sihing73)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/7 "2009-05-13T21:10:21Z")
Hello, Always sad when someone of this stature passes on. Best wishes to his family and extended Wing Chun Family. ---
**Author:** ![Xiao3\_Meng4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/xiao3_meng4/32/379_2.png) [@Xiao3\_Meng4](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Xiao3_Meng4)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/8 "2009-05-13T22:54:01Z")
R.I.P. I never met Wang Kiu, so I always had a near mythical impression of him. When I think of Yip Man Wing Chun, I think of 5 descendants: Moy Yat, because I studied in his lineage; Tsui Sheung Tin, because I saw him do something friggin’ amazing; Wong Sheung Leung, because he’s held up as a Wing Chun fighter and was Bruce Lee’s main teacher; and Wang Kiu, because I heard a story about him being the guy who set up the rooftop fights. I heard he also fought himself. Doing a bit of searching online, I realize that he was much loved by his students. A bit more searching, and I find that he was regarded by Tsui Sheung Tin as “the pillar of Wing Chun,” meaning he regarded him as having learned all that Ip Man had to offer. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9DOSgAZUAQ&eurl=http://www.wangkiu.nl/&feature=player\_embedded](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9DOSgAZUAQ&eurl=http://www.wangkiu.nl/&feature=player_embedded) I extend my condolences to his family, friends and students. ---
**Author:** ![stonecrusher69](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/stonecrusher69/32/283_2.png) [@stonecrusher69](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/stonecrusher69)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/9 "2009-05-13T23:02:10Z")
Sorry to hear of the passing of Sifu Wang Kiu. R.I.P. ---
**Author:** ![WarriorWC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/warriorwc/32/901_2.png) [@WarriorWC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/WarriorWC)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/10 "2009-05-15T12:02:13Z")
Respects and Condolences ---
**Author:** ![Muteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/54ee81/32.png) [@Muteki](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Muteki)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/11 "2009-05-20T06:40:31Z")
May he rest in peace. Also, a not widely discussed student of Yip Man, Sifu Ng Chan (), also passed away last year September 2008. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_T\_England](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@Paul\_T\_England](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Paul_T_England)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/12 "2009-05-20T07:59:21Z")
Another sad time for Wing Chun. I never met Wang Kiu but he hopefully his students will carry on his fine reputation. I did spend time with Ng Chan and his students in a social setting and I found him to be a very interesting guy. Some people just have an aura about them and you know they are good! Paul [www.moifa.co.uk](http://www.moifa.co.uk) ---
**Author:** ![X\_plosion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/4da419/32.png) [@X\_plosion](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/X_plosion)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/13 "2009-05-20T12:53:35Z")
Rest In Peace Sifu Wang ---
**Author:** ![LoneTiger108](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df705f/32.png) [@LoneTiger108](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/LoneTiger108)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/14 "2009-05-20T19:54:06Z")
My thoughts are with the family of Wang Kiu, and all those who will miss him. Another great teacher leaves us. May all Wing Chun grow under their guidance from the heavens. ---
**Author:** ![MOSHE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/moshe/32/952_2.png) [@MOSHE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MOSHE)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/15 "2010-04-01T16:40:07Z")
[QUOTE=Muteki;935590]May he rest in peace. Also, a not widely discussed student of Yip Man, Sifu Ng Chan (), also passed away last year September 2008.[/QUOTE] hello, you are saying that your father learned wing chun with ng chan. can you ask him if he knows ki ping pun,he is my friend and sifu.i trained myself few times with ng chan in hong kong and in france (from where im native) when he came to visit us i can confirm to you and to people interesting in wing chun that he was the more accomplished student of yip man ,to who he gave most of his knowledge and know how in wing chun,like the kicks. authentic wing chun is not really what you see ,in the movements ,it is more what you dont see in the way to become free of the movements and to organise your strength regards your will and thats the problem of wing chun today,because what people think of wing chun to be very efficient and impressive,they cannot achieve it against other syle more basic . the reason is that they perfomed only movements ,and they teach only movements because nobody teached them the know how of wing chun so ,in a way ,what people are practising today is not the authentic wing chun of leung chan or yip man this wasnt the case of ng chan ,and of his closest student ki ping pun which one was living with him Im open to any question or discussion regards ---
**Author:** ![MOSHE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/moshe/32/952_2.png) [@MOSHE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MOSHE)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/16 "2010-04-01T16:46:00Z")
ng chan wing chun hello, i trained myself few times with ng chan in hong kong and in france (from where im native) when he came to visit us i can confirm to you and to people interesting in wing chun that he was the more accomplished student of yip man ,to who he gave most of his knowledge and know how in wing chun,like the kicks. authentic wing chun is not really what you see ,in the movements ,it is more what you dont see in the way to become free of the movements and to organise your strength regards your will and thats the problem of wing chun today,because what people think of wing chun to be very efficient and impressive,they cannot achieve it against other syle more basic . the reason is that they perfomed only movements ,and they teach only movements because nobody teached them the know how of wing chun so ,in a way ,what people are practising today is not the authentic wing chun of leung chan or yip man this wasnt the case of ng chan ,and of his closest student ki ping pun which one was living with him Im open to any question or discussion regards ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Redmond](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/phil_redmond/32/186_2.png) [@Phil\_Redmond](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Phil_Redmond)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/17 "2010-04-01T19:26:57Z")
My condolences Rene. (@Moshe, the point of this thread was to pay respects to a fallen WC Sifu. Not to tout how great your WC is and how little the rest of us know). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![MOSHE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/moshe/32/952_2.png) [@MOSHE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MOSHE)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/18 "2010-04-01T19:58:31Z")
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1003124]My condolences Rene. (@Moshe, the point of this thread was to pay respects to a fallen WC Sifu. Not to tout how great your WC is and how little the rest of of know). :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] of course ,its not a question of ego .just sharing of my own experience about the quality of the technic of these sifu and the authenticity of their knowledge what is very rare ---
**Author:** ![k\_gledhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aca169/32.png) [@k\_gledhill](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/k_gledhill)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/19 "2010-04-01T20:01:43Z")
Sad, my condolences. I met Wong Kiu while doing a seminar with V Kan in Holland. We met and chi-saoed, with students . ---
**Author:** ![YungChun](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/yungchun/32/339_2.png) [@YungChun](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/YungChun)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892/20 "2010-04-01T20:14:33Z")
[QUOTE=MOSHE;1003132]of course ,its not a question of ego .just sharing of my own experience about the quality of the technic of these sifu and the authenticity of their knowledge what is very rare[/QUOTE] No, it’s a question of Kung-Fu which if we were to go by your posting style is not very advanced at all.. :rolleyes: [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/wang-kiu-has-passed-away/45892.md?page=2)