# Videos of Seminar **URL:** \ **Category:** Wing Chun\ **Created:** [January 20, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047 "2004-01-20T16:02:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![edward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@edward](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/edward)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/1 "2004-01-20T16:02:03Z")
Here’s only a handful of videos that I clipped from the 4th annual windy city wing chun seminar, that took place last year in chicago. [http://www.windycitywingchun.com/movies/index.html](http://www.windycitywingchun.com/movies/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/2 "2004-01-20T16:24:36Z")
Great videos Ed! You really tried to touch Sigung eh?..😉 Nice face lift to your website too!.. ---
**Author:** ![edward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@edward](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/edward)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/3 "2004-01-20T16:32:07Z")
yuppers I guess you could say tried and failed… ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/4 "2004-01-20T16:44:20Z")
The great thing about Wing Chun is ;you can improve forever. The day you will get at Sigung’s level,he will be even better!.. I heard Master Ho is still a mean chisauer!..🆒 Anyway,I’m glad to see that your school is going so well. Keep on the good work.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/5 "2004-01-20T18:28:35Z")
Hey Ed! Check your email!..😉 ---
**Author:** ![edward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@edward](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/edward)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/6 "2004-01-20T18:55:53Z")
nuting haven’t gotten anythign in the email? ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/7 "2004-01-20T18:58:59Z")
Ed Can you contact me by PM?..or email me through the forum?.. ---
**Author:** ![edward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90db22/32.png) [@edward](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/edward)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/8 "2004-01-20T19:01:25Z")
stupid me stupid me i got your email… ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/9 "2004-01-20T19:07:27Z")
It happens sometimes!..:rolleyes: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![quiet\_man](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/quiet_man/32/358_2.png) [@quiet\_man](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/quiet_man)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/10 "2004-01-22T11:50:22Z")
> Originally posted by old jong > The great thing about Wing Chun is ;you can improve forever. > The day you will get at Sigung’s level,he will be even better!.. My sifu says it like this: “You’ll be better than me when you’re older than me” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![yuanfen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yuanfen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yuanfen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/11 "2004-01-22T12:56:05Z")
## Old Jong sez: I heard Master Ho is still a mean chisauer!.. (Sigung) Ho Kam Ming is not taking on any new classroom students currently. He taught a good core of young people in Toronto after moving to Toronto from Macao/HK- so it is upto all the people he has personally taught and in turn their students ( and their students) to carry on the development and evolution of wing chun. In addition to those newer ones in Toronto and older ones in Macao his students in the US include Augustine Fong, Buddy Wu and NTC who is on this list. His students are always carefully taught and have their own individualities. No robotics there. Regarding chi sao- from the time thathe began his wing chun till Ip Man became ill in his last years- Master Ho regularly did chi sao with Ip Man.- in addition to learning forms, principles and applications in great detail. His control of timing and people in chi sao is a great standard. He paid personal attention to his students whether they wanted to learn wing chun for personal development, for teaching or for full contact work. The respect for him by his students and those who know him is great to watch. Given the thinning of the ranks of people who learned directly and personally from Ip Man and his own knowledge- Ho Kam Ming is a real wing chun and kung fu treasure. ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/12 "2004-01-22T17:55:42Z")
[They say “a picture equals a thousand words!”](http://www.hokamming.com/images/HKMMacau2R.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/13 "2004-01-22T18:02:09Z")
BTW…What do you think about Wing Chun “politics” and puerril clans war after seeing this pic?.. ---
**Author:** ![yylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6a8cbe/32.png) [@yylee](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yylee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/14 "2004-01-22T18:10:02Z")
> Originally posted by old jong > BTW…What do you think about Wing Chun “politics” and puerril clans war after seeing this pic?.. after taking that picture, they all rushed back to their Mah Jong tables to have their clan “entertainment” (which you may call it “war”). 😃 of course, there are always “politics” involved on Mah Jong tables. ---
**Author:** ![yuanfen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yuanfen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yuanfen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/15 "2004-01-22T21:09:54Z")
That is a great picture Old Jong. Hard to duplicate these days. ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/16 "2004-01-22T21:20:08Z")
Joy! Perhaps impossible!..But,this shows where the kind of skills seen on these videos are coming from!..(back to topic!😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![yuanfen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yuanfen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yuanfen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/17 "2004-01-22T21:42:37Z")
Old Jong- I have not seen the videos because i depend on Quick Time not windows player or whatever is involved…unfortunately…but I have a sense of the skills that are likely to be on the video.. So- again- I miss out on a video. ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/18 "2004-01-22T21:47:01Z")
Joy! These are things,I’m sure you have lived and felt with your own hands. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![yuanfen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yuanfen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/yuanfen)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/19 "2004-01-23T00:24:13Z")
Old Jong: \ ed: Thanks for putting the pics up. Some of you may remember the video of Jeff Bolt’s kung fu tourney in Orlando several years ago. The video was playeda couple of times on national TV- dont remember the channel.. There was a brief very good moving chi sao demo by Master Fong and a partner. Among other demo videos floating around-I think ed has seen it- and I was there— of one handed chisao— moving and lat sao and locks and knees-when he came to Phoenix during a kung fu tourney. One shoulder was bothering him at that time so out came single handed spontaneity. Then there is one of those old pre Panther videos where there is after lion dancing- a fun demo of a street fight scene with Danny Chan and him being attacked bya gang. It was fun- at the Tucson community center. I think that old video also has him lion dancing- where he jumps with the big lion head on to a fairly high table, than jumped on the edges of a bowl on top of the table- then for the finale picking up the bowl with one foot and kicking it to the accompanying “fut” person with a fan on the stage. ---
**Author:** ![old\_jong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/old_jong/32/86_2.png) [@old\_jong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/old_jong)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047/20 "2004-01-23T00:36:25Z")
> Originally posted by yuanfen > [B] There was a brief very good moving chi sao demo by Master Fong and a partner.[/B] The partner was Tony Frighetti! One of the quiet forces of Wing Chun!🆒 A very nice guy BTW He’s coming to Ottawa this summer for a seminar. [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/videos-of-seminar/25047.md?page=2)