VIDEO - Tin Yat Tai Chi Fist Form

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1089838]I like your Taiji better than CMC’s Taiji for the following reason:

  • the speed is normal and not as slow as old man climb mountain.
  • you have mixed some white crane and Bagua flavor into it. It shows that you don’t have “style boundary”.
  • You have some fast moves within other slow moves. It’s much more fun to train that way.

It takes a lot of courage to put up your own work on youtube. When people said that sword should not touching sword, I immediately made a clip and put on youtube for the sake of discussion. If everybody are kind enough to share their own clips, the online discussion will be much more fun.

I have asked youtube clips about snake engine, 20 Channels, and 6 directional force vectors. I still haven’t seen them yet. :([/QUOTE]

Thank you! What is CMC style?

Yes, I do not like old man style too and so my Tai Chi are all done fast. This is not the pace I practice at home, it’s just for show. At home, I do it even faster to save time for other things~ I got over 150 forms a day to practice.. no time to waste! hahahaha! :slight_smile:

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I thought it was 400?

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[QUOTE=JamesC;1089840]I thought it was 400?[/QUOTE]

I know 400+ forms in my brain, but I practice about 150 per day, and so they cycle and go in a schedule in a week. That’s how it goes. How can you practice so much in a day? 400? no way, haha!

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I couldn’t practice 150 in a day either…

What is your job that allows you to practice that many forms per day?

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[QUOTE=JamesC;1089842]I couldn’t practice 150 in a day either…

What is your job that allows you to practice that many forms per day?[/QUOTE]

To be honest, the 150 forms don’t go on 365 days a year. I work as a Taoism Master, full time, and I open my own temple in Markham, Ontario. Now our temple is under rennovation and so I work from home and teach online, do online service and so on. Everything is done online and so I have the whole day free. I train for about 8 hours a day to get the 150 forms done. Sometimes abit less just to relax for the day. Sometimes more if I feel like to.

Some forms are short and easy to do fast, like most of the mantis forms are very fast, you can really roll through them like 10 forms in 3 minutes or something. Just speed it up and it’s good cardio for your body too, haha!

I can say, doing a yang style 108 form takes me about 3minutes only, not hard~

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[QUOTE=CYMac;1089839]What is CMC style? [/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2mvyjHYS0

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089846]doing a yang style 108 form takes me about 3minutes only, not hard~[/QUOTE]
The 108 moves long form take me 4 minutes and 42 seconds. But after my 5 miles running, I can finish that form within 2 minutes. I was taught that each move should be equal to either 1 inhale or 1 exhale. If my breathing is fast after running, my form speed will be fast. The breath speed control the body speed and not the other way around.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1089855]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2mvyjHYS0

The 108 moves long form take me 4 minutes and 42 seconds. But after my 5 miles running, I can finish that form within 2 minutes. I was taught that each move should be equal to either 1 inhale or 1 exhale. If my breathing is fast after running, my form speed will be fast. The breath speed control the body speed and not the other way around.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for letting me know the CMC, I know who he is, I don’t like his style either because it’s way too old man looking, not my type~

Well, 3 minutes is just good but it’s okay as long as we can save time and not spend 30mins doing one form, it’s pointless. I saw the people in the park who do Tai Chi when I am in HK, it’s sooooo sloooooww, people can even sleep while moving, that’s their taichi style, holy.. I can’t stand it, too boring.

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Some people said that you start you training slow and finish your training fast. The problem is people like CMC who was still doing his training slow when he was old.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1089866]Some people said that you start you training slow and finish your training fast. The problem is people like CMC who was still doing his training slow when he was old.[/QUOTE]

You start slow just because you cannot remember the moves correctly, but once you got it “naturalized”, you will be able to move very fast. I can do the form in ultra fast mode in 30secs too, but not what I do normally, I can do a show off one later on and put it on video in the future, haha~ let’s have a 108 form race!

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I have trained over 50 forms in my life. I don’t have time to train those forms daily. If I can just move my hands a little bit, I can train it in my mind so I won’t forget those form. Until one day I have recorded all my forms on video tape, I no longer have to worry about that problem.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1089880]I have trained over 50 forms in my life. I don’t have time to train those forms daily. If I can just move my hands a little bit, I can train it in my mind so I won’t forget those form. Until one day I have recorded all my forms on video tape, I no longer have to worry about that problem.[/QUOTE]

Yes. that’s very true but you do not need video tape now. You can get those camcorders with HDD (hard disk) and they record in HD format as well. You can get them on a DVD for yourself and keep it for your life as a memorable thing!

That’s also why I recorded my forms too. 400 forms are not really cool to practice all the time and so I am recording a lot of them down for reference in the future too.

50 forms is very impressive already, most Tai Chi masters only know 3-4 forms, haha! You are very good already!

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So… form collector = magic rainbow unicorn powers?

With a website?

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[QUOTE=CYMac;1089827]How is it rigid? Can you feel?[/QUOTE]
yes, I can; of course, you don’t have to believe me, that’s ok;

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089827]I am the performer, Mak Ching Yuen. You may speak to me directly here. I don’t see any pause, stop, or any form of rigid though. What’s more rigid would be seeing Wu Style Taichi square form, a robotic form that is really purposely rigid. Or even the Suen Style Taichi, which is also more rigid than this one. Talk with facts and points please,[/QUOTE]
ok; first, it’s not about style, it’s about quality of the movement; you claim to be a Taoist, yet you are performing, not moving spontaneously in the movement; the form is the embodiment of one’s understanding, and it’s as plain as day that yours is superficial, bound up in the repetition as opposed to the rediscovery; my proof? your obsession with enumerating the large number of forms you know and practice; if you were anything close to the mastey you arrogantly ascribe to yourself, you’d know that it doesn’t matter the quantity of what you do, but rather the quality; within one move is contained all moves ( ); your movement OTOH is differentiated and disconnected along the macro-structure of your form;

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089827] don’t just know to assault.[/QUOTE]
LOL, another “delicate flower”; look, when you post yourself on a pubic forum and invite commentary, not everyone is going to like what you do, plain and simple; and some of us will say it in a way that reflects your delivery, vis a vis the self-aggrandizing biography that you have posted on your website; if you can’t handle negative comments without characterizing them as an “assault”, then you may want to reconsider your motivation for posting;
but whatever, that’s on you; frankly, I stopped taking you seriously at:
“Mak Jo Si have mastered the 108 Taichi form by himself from reading a book in only 3 hours for his first time learning Taichi and he was shocking the people around by his genius kungfu talent!”
“If you ever learn from Mak Jo Si, he will teach you anything you want with everything he knows! The best kungfu master ever!”
probably English isn’t your first language, but there’s this nifty word called “hubris” with which you may want to acquaint yourself…

however, it’s not as much fun as when you COMPLETELY deviate from reality with this:
“During the fall of 2009, Mak Jo Si gained the ability of communicating with the deities and Taoverse Deity take care of him. Taoverse Deity taught him kungfu directly and actually helped him recover from the injuries in the past in a few months!”

a word of advice: take your medication before you post online…

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[QUOTE=Xiao3 Meng4;1089905]So… form collector = magic rainbow unicorn powers?

With a website?[/QUOTE]
the latest Looney Toon to frequent KFMF; good thing too, it was getting dull here; now where’s Scott?!?

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Chuang Tzu would laugh.

CYMac:

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[QUOTE=Xiao3 Meng4;1089909]Chuang Tzu would laugh.

CYMac:

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You two above really got nothing to do in life? Feeling empty all day long trying to find your life back? Too bad, I ain’t here for ya then, find what you like and comment on it, you don’t have to say something to show you are not dead yet.

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[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1089906]yes, I can; of cours…post online…[/QUOTE]

What’s to point of talking to you when you don’t really know what you are talking about anyway? I will leave it for others to judge what they see, but personally speaking, I have not see people as nuts as you are.

Well, I post things for sharing, not for you to abuse. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to speak to show you got a mouth you know? When you walk on the street, do you comment on all the stores you don’t like and tell them crap?

Let’s see you show me some kungfu with you in the video then. Let me see what you mean by what you say. With just you flipping out stuff out of your mouth like that, without using a brain, it’s just pointless to talk. Show me some stuff, show me kungfu of yourself to tell me what you say.

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[QUOTE=CYMac;1089911]What’s to point of talking to you when you don’t really know what you are talking about anyway?[/QUOTE]
ah yes, the cardinal sign of a Looney Tune - anyone who disagrees w his OMnificence doesn’t know what they are talking about; how surprising!

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089911] I will leave it for others to judge what they see, but personally speaking, I have not see people as nuts as you are. [/QUOTE]
well, I;m not posting about how I directly communicate with the Gods of Tao, so talking about crazy…

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089911]Well, I post things for sharing, not for you to abuse. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to speak to show you got a mouth you know? [/QUOTE]
you posted on a pubic forum; if you don’t want to hear negative opinions, don’t post; otherwise, get a straw and suck it up;

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089911] When you walk on the street, do you comment on all the stores you don’t like and tell them crap? [/QUOTE]
horrible analogy…

[QUOTE=CYMac;1089911]Let’s see you show me some kungfu with you in the video then. Let me see what you mean by what you say. With just you flipping out stuff out of your mouth like that, without using a brain, it’s just pointless to talk. Show me some stuff, show me kungfu of yourself to tell me what you say.[/QUOTE]
LOL - another lame argument - look, I am not interested in other people’s opinion of me; I didn’t post myself looking for commentary; you posted thinking that you would hear wonderful accolades about you

oh, and BTW, nice job bawang :wink:

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Just to make it clear for all…

A Taoist doing taichi do not mean it have to be with spontaneous movement. That is not right. A taoist is a taoist, doesn’t make it different from other people doing tai chi. The Tai Chi itself is a form only, even non-taoist doing my form is the same, it will not be different.

From what we heard from the above comment with the person commenting on my form about the “spontaneous” part, this person totally do not know anything about Taoism at all just from this sentense.

Taoism is not even related to Kungfu, they go in two paths. Taoism is Taoism, kungfu is kungfu.

Judge with your eyes.

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[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1089907]the latest Looney Toon to frequent KFMF; good thing too, it was getting dull here; now where’s Scott?!?[/QUOTE]

Hey!!! I gotta sleep sometime!

Frankly, as a REAL Taoist Master myself I must say this charlatan is quite disturbing! My coterie and I will be performing a rare and sacred Taoist ritual tonight. NOT to exorcise this Demon, but to exorcise this Demon’s demons!

He is being led astray by the dark forces of nature he has drawn into his mind. I have seen this kind of thing before. It is sad really. Someone buys a book and then thinks he immediately understands what he is reading. This is an invitation to the demons! Once the demons take hold, supercilious behavior follows. From there the demons have pretty much control of the mind and leads the person into flights of fantasy about how grandiose they are. Of course their mind demons cover it up by pretending they are doing everything for the sake of mankind.

But really it is the demons flagellating the mind. One becomes trapped by their own thought of self-grandeur and the benefits they THINK they are doing for humanity.

I can usually save these kinds of people with my sacred and rare Taoist rituals. That is, if and when my followers…er…I mean…coterie show up for class! It is hard to get everyone online at the same time from all around the world!

All men are children of Tao, but not all men are Tao’s children!

You may quote me!!!