Trapping

I have long arms and am tall 6.2 I have some trouble trapping when my opponent pulls back, ( could push using his froce but that wont trap him, How do you trap when you opponent pulls.???

what are the keys to trapping

centreline, centreline, centreline.

Structure

Keeping structure and don’t over extend!!!

Timing! Timing! Timing!

The other responses are correct but i might add you shouln’t think about trapping. Think about hitting. Traps are something which happen or do not happen if you try to force them, then you will become preoccupied and miss striking opportunities.

GP

I agree with Girl Power. Trapping should not be an end by itself. If you are preoccupied with trapping, you could get hit. It is better to attack your opponent first. His reaction to your attack may open an opportunity to trap.

…Trap!..:rolleyes:

You may want to try trapping with a different range. shorter range arms such as in Chum Kiu. after all that’s what it’s for, middle range traps. Enjoy!!!
OOooooops, I said too much.

Roy: How about expanding on CK and trapping… :smiley:

If youre opponent pulls you, say with a lap sau you should step in with lan sau or bong sau, pin and punch over/through your lan/bong.

Alternatively just step in and deliver an elbow strike to his / her centre - this should give you a few more options.

Best wishes, Stu

Trapping…RANGES?..

Why not just punch the guy as he pulls away (from what?) When there is no contact,charge straight.
What is the use for “Trapping” when you just have to punch?..If he blocks (or deflects whatever) use that contact at your advantage.

If you really want to trap: Dig a hole and cover it with branches! Maybe your opponent will fall in it!:wink:

P.S. we are not in JKD!:rolleyes:

Hi Old jong - I agrre with some of your comments. Trapping is a poor phrase - youd be extremely lucky to ‘trap’ someone when they are going hell for leather trying to hit you !

However, with my lan sau example, its not so much of a trap, but a way of obstructing your opponent while you hit / control / change your angle.

Probably the best way of ‘trapping’ is by controlling the opponents elbow quickly and with forward pressure. This will compltetly destroy his centreline. Unless they throw a biu sau quickly underneath then youll be able to control long enough to give them a solid punch to the jaw.

I think people get too obsessed with trapping. Controlling is a better focus of your training.

Rgds, Stuart

Hello stuartm

Control is the correct way to see it. Sticking skills from chi sau practice makes that control possible.
If you look at various BJJ/muay thai and the likes internet forum; you will see that they think wingchunners are only looking to “trap” a guy’s hands in order to strike him!..That expression was brought by JKD people along with the “straightblast” and things like that!..I think our art is much more that "playing with an other guy hands! Don’t you?..No wonder they compare chi sau to “pattycake”
Let’s stick and control and forget about “trapping” It does not fit in our system.

Well said OJ ! If something presents itself in Chi Sau then exploit it . but dont force it. If somebody over commits on their bong, then yes - put a lock on, but dont force it using brute strength. Thats not skill, its desperation!!!

Good thread guys.

Stuart

rock on old jong!
better to leave the “trapping” to the Mullett-heads in JKD. Ever noticed how JKD guys know more about Wing Chun than you, your kung fu brothers or Sifu? :rolleyes:

Hey Kuen!

This word should be banned from the vocabulary of all Wing Chun people!
It is not even a Wing Chun “concept” (If I may use that term!):wink:

careful, old jong. you say the “C” word around here, you’d better duck.

:wink:

Yeah, they must have it copyright!..Let’s use the word “principle” instead!:wink:

Trapping, a JKD concept. Think again!!!

Nicheren, what would you like to know?

O.K. let’s say a JKD deformation!:rolleyes: