The technique becomes harder because of the possiton you put yourself in. or challenging yourself to do something over or up to a certain height. bench pressing gives you a higher centre of gravity therefore making it easier for someone to sweep you etc.
I think he’s saying bench pressing will make your upper body proportionally bigger. Hmm, you could always squat too, or just don’t make mass a goal 
I think that the more I train, the more I like to keep things simple. By that I mean that you should ideally only train what you can do consistently. For me, since I’m not all that strong, I can get a decent workout with very little equipment, since there are a lot of body positions that are pretty challenging.
Of course I love going to the gym too and I’m all for it, but it’s getting harder to do lately, so I have to improvise and streamline. I have to pick just a few goals, a few foundational exercises, plus whatever I learn in class, and do something every day.
I’d say that if you can ask “Am I doing too much?”, you are probably doing pretty well.
i train 4/5 days a week soemtimes 6 it depends. usually 2 hours minimum, sometimes 4 hours.
Originally posted by kung fu muppet
The technique becomes harder because of the possiton you put yourself in. or challenging yourself to do something over or up to a certain height. bench pressing gives you a higher centre of gravity therefore making it easier for someone to sweep you etc.
Any person lifting weights wouldn’t just do bench. As abobo said, do lots of squats and deadlifts and build up your legs and core to balance it out. Your COG won’t change. Hardly enough to make sweeps easier on you. Lots of other benefits to being strong, too. BTW, if you don’t want to develop your chest, don’t do pushups. (Once again) your body can’t tell the difference between pushups and benchpress. It’s all just resistance to push against. Your muscles aren’t that smart.
- lifting weights is plain fun
- Doing technique doesn’t build strenght the same way as lifting does (not in that extent…although there’s a site claiming otherwise, but that one is not about “technique” either (http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/shenandoah/OBB/OBB.html))
- lifting weights = “tuning” and strengthening the whole body and not just training one muscle (if you’d do that, you’d be some sort of freakshow in the end)
I think power training is an indispensible part of MA training.
Originally posted by Elxen
[B]http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/shenandoah/OBB/OBB.html[/B]
Most of those exercises are pretty crappy and won’t do much, altho I guess they’re better than doing nothing.
ironfist – how can you say that? the character in the drawing has pipes and a six pack. the exercises obviously worked for him. 
Originally posted by rubthebuddha
ironfist – how can you say that? the character in the drawing has pipes and a six pack. the exercises obviously worked for him.
I stand corrected.
Originally posted by kung fu muppet
The technique becomes harder because of the possiton you put yourself in. or challenging yourself to do something over or up to a certain height. bench pressing gives you a higher centre of gravity therefore making it easier for someone to sweep you etc.
My experience has been quite different. Perhaps you should try a strength training program, then let us know your results?
Originally posted by IronFist
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Most of those exercises are pretty crappy and won’t do much, altho I guess they’re better than doing nothing. [/B]
Never bothered trying any of them (let alone I’ll ever bother judging 'em), but just pointing out there’s a site claiming weightlifting can be substituted.
ill try a well ballanced weight training programme constructed by me and my instructor. How does 6 months sound???
No offence, but I wouldn’t be asking your MA instructor for weightlifting advice unless he’s done a substantial amount himself. 6 months isn’t really enough. You’ll make some good gains, but you won’t know enough to make the most of what you do learn. Same as MA - is 6 months enough?
i’m not big into weights either, but I do realize that weights ARE needed to make gains. Just do PTP bench, squat, and some weighted pullups. thats all. Takes like 20 min max.
my instructor has lots of weight training experience im sure he can help. all you guy are missing the enthusiasm of training, body weight is the best and plenty of food
IronFist’s rule number 1:
Never get weight training advice from a martial artist 
This is especially true if you ever hear them say anything like “lift with your tendons and not your muscles” or “you don’t need to squat if you practice horse stance.” :eek:
also “you dont need to run if you do breathing exercises”
Ironfist lives by that one!
Originally posted by kung fu muppet
all you guy are missing the enthusiasm of training,
you know what they say about people who assume…
body weight is the best and plenty of food
what proof do you have of that? links to documentation? any sort of credentials? did you see it in a book? Or is that just what you feel?
And, is the best for what? building endurance? getting stronger? typing on KFO?
Originally posted by kung fu muppet
ill try a well ballanced weight training programme constructed by me and my instructor. How does 6 months sound???
cool. when you get your program, post it here.