# Tiger Schulman's Horror Stories

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**Category:** Other Related Arts\
**Created:** [June 29, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856 "2001-06-29T02:07:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/1 "2001-06-29T02:07:31Z")

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What is the deal with Tiger Schulmann’s lawsuit?

I am a big beleiver in luck. The more I work, the more luck I have.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 8:52am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/2 "2001-06-30T08:52:33Z")

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Can’t find the URL for the news story. What it boils down to is that martial arts studios don’t have to follow the same rules as a health club or gym. They don’t have to be bonded in case they go out of business, offer certain conditions for cancelation of contracts and many other things that health clubs have to follow. I’ll try and find the article.

[i]  
Rogue, you’re an @ss!! Watchman

Adventure is just a romantic name for trouble. It sounds swell when you write about it, but it’s hell when you meet it face to face in a dark and lonely place.  
Louis L’Amour

BTW, did I mention that Rogue was an @ss? Watchman[/i]

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2001, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/3 "2001-07-11T01:17:52Z")

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Tiger Schulman’s Horror Stories

I’m curious to hear any horror stories those of you might have had with Tiger Schulman’s Karate? A friend of mine went there and It was a nightmare

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/4 "2001-07-11T03:04:47Z")

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Even more interesting

It would be even more interesting to hear positive stories about TSK.

Horror stories are so common they are boring by now…

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/5 "2001-07-16T21:37:15Z")

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Can someone please tell me who Tiger Schulman is?

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/6 "2001-07-16T23:31:35Z")

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Yeah, and what are some of these horror stories? I’m unfamiliar with both aspects of this question.

K. Mark Hoover

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2001, 8:25am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/7 "2001-07-17T08:25:33Z")

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Tiger shulmans karate

I heard that tiger shulmans karate is easy. There were people in my kungfu class that switched from TSK to my school because they said it was to easy. I was going to go their also but I didn’t think it was worth going to. People in my school make a joke out of tiger shulmans. I mean just look at the commercials for tiger shulmans, thats the most lamest stuff Ive ever seen. But Ive got to admitt they sure market their School well.

“Beware of the chi within JB”

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/8 "2001-07-17T22:47:34Z")

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Tiger Schulman

It’s Karate for the masses…takes Mcdojo to a whole new level. Everything is prepackaged..

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/9 "2001-07-18T02:00:03Z")

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Look

[www.tsk.com](http://www.tsk.com)

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2001, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/10 "2001-07-18T02:03:51Z")

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Horror stories

Most of these tales of evil have to do with the fact that when you sign up for classes, you sign a very long contract for thousands of dollars. It guarantees you will become a black belt after x amount of time, and has clauses for additional fees if you do not make it to BB under the time indicated in the original contract.

The bad part comes when you decide you don’t like the classes and want you 2g’s back.

But hey man, caveat emptor (buyer beware).

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/11 "2001-07-19T12:32:27Z")

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Seven-------Tiger Schulman is a nobody who won a few tournaments and declared himslef Shihan of his own Karate system, totally egotistical too, there is a newsletter and there is a section called tracks of the tiger that talks about how great he is, its such a joke. It almost seems liek they are trying to form their own cult.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2001, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/12 "2001-07-19T20:30:07Z")

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LOL, thats all we need another Chung Moo Doo. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/13 "2006-09-26T18:37:44Z")

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[QUOTE=bdragon;70450]Seven-------Tiger Schulman is a nobody who won a few tournaments and declared himslef Shihan of his own Karate system, totally egotistical too, there is a newsletter and there is a section called tracks of the tiger that talks about how great he is, its such a joke. It almost seems liek they are trying to form their own cult.[/QUOTE]

Do you know him or something? Did he seem Egotistical when you spoke with him?

This was from the Grappling Hall of fame for the worlds best Grapplers.

Daniel “Tiger” Schulmann has spent his entire life, first as a fighter, and then as a teacher, to achieve the greatest challenges that martial arts has to offer. During the 70s, Tiger Schulman won over 100 competitions, before he set his sights on the ultimate: full-contact, bare-knuckle, knockdown-knockout competition.

From 1979 to 1984, he was the North American Mas Oyama Full-Contact Karate Champion, an accomplishment still unequalled to this day. During that time, he also represented the United States in the World Open Full-Contact Karate Championships in Tokyo, Japan

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/14 "2006-09-26T18:48:32Z")

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[QUOTE=jbmmaster;70446]I heard that tiger shulmans karate is easy. There were people in my kungfu class that switched from TSK to my school because they said it was to easy. I was going to go their also but I didn’t think it was worth going to. People in my school make a joke out of tiger shulmans. I mean just look at the commercials for tiger shulmans, thats the most lamest stuff Ive ever seen. But Ive got to admitt they sure market their School well.

“Beware of the chi within JB”[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with you that the commercials seem pretty lame but after I tried other classes in my area (Judo and Tae Kwon Do) I figured I would give it a shot because the classes I was in were not much of a workout at all and I didn’t feel I was getting any benefit from taking them. Once I started Taking Tiger Shculmanns I realized that non of the stuff in the comercials is what we do that is only for the young young kids to make it fun and keep them interested. It’s a way better workout than the other classes I took as well and I definatley feel like I’m getting somewhere after every class. Don’t get me wrong your classes may be even more intense and if that is the case then I would see no reason to switch to any other schools at all.

I don’t know what the above guy is talking about with them Guaranteeing you anything or giving you any time frame to become a black belt because they said that everyone takes a different amount of time to achieve a higher ranking and for some it may take a long time. Also there is no 2000 dollar charge that you can’t get back either. You pay monthly and if you stop you don’t pay anymore like most classes.

On top of that the current instructor at my school is currently the USKBA world Muay Thai Champion and has defended it and won as well.

Sorry to ramble on but I actually felt the same way you all did until I tried it and it just proves that you shouldn’t Knock it till ya try it!

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/15 "2006-10-09T19:50:31Z")

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Tiger Schulmann’s - anyone ever gotten a refund?

So I enrolled at TSK a few years back (I know, I know…) Was going okay for about 6 months… and somehow I was into it enough to sign up (and pay for) the extended classes (big mistake, obviously).

But things came up, and for a bunch of reasons, I stopped going. I always had intentions of going back and picking it up again, but it just never happened.

Now here I am, and in a situation where I could definitely use the money a lot more than I could use cookie-cutter “karate” instruction. I thought about trying to get my money back, but I know TSK’s stance on the subject. So I started looking into it, and I came by this forum. Figured I’d at least throw up a post and see if anyone out there ever had dealings with these guys.

Anyone know of anyone who has tried to get any money back from TSK? Or maybe point me in a better direction to try to get more info about it? Thinking about filing a complaint with the Attorney General… dunno how much good that will do but I guess it can’t hurt. It’s all a shot in the dark, I’m sure - but I’ll try anything at this point.

If anyone has any info, or can help in any way, please let me know.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/16 "2006-10-09T20:06:22Z")

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Here is some information that may be of interest to you

[http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2000/nov/nov27a\_00.html](http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2000/nov/nov27a_00.html)

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/17 "2006-10-10T07:06:49Z")

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Easy son, these people belonged to the carefree America of yesteryear, before osama showed us that the only true way to combat terror is with Tiger Schulmans Karate. They didnt know ☹

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/18 "2006-10-10T15:28:56Z")

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tiger!

while i can’t say much for some of his students! i heard from many reliable sources that tiger shulman himself was the reall deal. so while the school may be commercial(hey this is america and in america you gotta make buck you know) it’s to say that the teaching is commercial. now hold on i’m not promoting his school because he some \*\*\*\* heads for students who can’t fight to save there lives, and only no that tournament fighting crap. but mr. shulman himself can probably whip some ass…

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/19 "2006-10-10T16:12:41Z")

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That’s a good start, although I’m not in NY and don’t think I was part of that settlement.

Anyone else? ANY info is helpful!

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/tiger-schulmans-horror-stories/5856/20 "2006-10-18T04:48:04Z")

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[QUOTE=sunfist;711714]Easy son, these people belonged to the carefree America of yesteryear, before osama showed us that the only true way to combat terror is with Tiger Schulmans Karate. They didnt know :([/QUOTE]That was some funny \*\*\*\*! 😃 😃 😃

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