Tibetan Qigong

Yeah, check out the English teacher’s brilliant post. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: You just make it toooo easy! :stuck_out_tongue:

A PhD in Cha’an Buddhism…thats hard to belilve. I didn’t know enlightenment required a degree.

But hey, who needs enlightenment as long as you’ve got a piece of paper SAYING you’re enlightened? :stuck_out_tongue:

Buddy,

“I was an actor. An actor who knew (and knows)…” and you said in another post " I’m not now, nor was I ever, an actor."

One statement must have been a lie.

“I thought my post was over the top. I was wrong, it was dead on target.”

So you do make mistakes, finally admiting to one after a half hearted attempt at an apology.

“Well you only managed to address the first line. As I knew you would. That’s the fishhook, babe. The rest of what I said was truth.”

Use of deception and your first statement might not even have been truthful.

You lie, you cheat, you decieve, and you make mistakes like all of us. How can you live with yourself if you judge youself by the same standards as you would judge others?

It is not me, but your own words that put your credability in Bagua and whatever else in doubt. Ask yourself if you would honestly buy the used cars that you’re trying to sell.

Kelvin,
Don’t you realize how easy it is to refute your puny excuse for an arguement? You just ignore reality, son.

“One statement must have been a lie.”

No it was…“I said that so your tiny brain could grasp some of the complexities of that particular occupation.”
I see I held out too much hope.

“So you do make mistakes, finally admiting to one after a half hearted attempt at an apology.”

No it wasn’t. Haven’t you even the most basic understanding of English? There was no apology. I admit I was wrong in thinking you were lucid.

“Use of deception and your first statement might not even have been truthful.”

Well I don’t expect you to understand a martial analogy but it was a feint. You know, to cause a reaction.

“You lie, you cheat, you decieve, and you make mistakes like all of us.”

I haven’t lied (see above) or cheated and the only mistake was thinking you were capable of rational thought or would answer a direct question.

“It is not me, but your own words that put your credability in Bagua and whatever else in doubt.”

Straw man, Kelvin. Neither my Bagua nor my credbility were ever in doubt. Did you read my neigong posts, ask others about my skill or are you just happy inside your own little fantasy?

Greetings…

Okay, kids.. recess is over, obviously you have been left unattended too long.. take your seats and stop that annoying bickering.. :smiley:

Really, this is embarassing..

And yet you read it all, Bob. I don’t guess you were too embarrassed. But hey, thanks for the condescension. Good thing you needed to comment, now everything’s all right.

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
A PhD in Cha’an Buddhism…thats hard to belilve. I didn’t know enlightenment required a degree.

you are turning this whole furum into a circus, and discounting any perspective that could bring you to a new enlightment, as enlightenment is found only in what we haven’t previously contemplated..even if it’s only a new take on an old issue…

I don’t claim the phd is certifying me as enlightened, but it will be and is my means to share what I have observed about the different ways ppl acheive theirs and how they interperate it. It’s just an observation paper, the enlightenment is a life work…

Greetings..

Buddy: Predictable…

And yet you read it all, Bob. I don’t guess you were too embarrassed. But hey, thanks for the condescension. Good thing you needed to comment, now everything’s all right.

I did read it all, hence the embarassment.. i tried a little humor, but, of course, you find conflict.. but, seriously, i do read it all, i hope to find tid-bits of wisdom.. but interpersonal conflicts make the search so very difficult.. as for “condescension” it was not intended, only interpreted that way.. but, the sparkling sarcasm, nicely done..

Be well..

Bob: Back atcha big guy.

“I did read it all, hence the embarassment.. i tried a little humor, but, of course, you find conflict.. but, seriously, i do read it all, i hope to find tid-bits of wisdom.. but interpersonal conflicts make the search so very difficult..”

Well clearly the thread veered way off course and at that point, were it me, I would have realized that no wisdom would be found in what was left. And even on a meditation and qigong list, this forum is basically populated by martial artists, both the real and imaginary kind. That conflict would arise? Q’uelle surprise.

“as for “condescension” it was not intended, only interpreted that way..”

Really? I wonder…

“but, the sparkling sarcasm, nicely done..”

It is my forte. I’m afraid irony is too subtle for this forum.

Buddy,

“No it was…“I said that so your tiny brain could grasp some of the complexities of that particular occupation.”
I see I held out too much hope.”

Yes, my brain is too small to understand double talk, but big enough to detect it when it crosses my path. You have put your rep. in Bagua in double trouble!

TaiChiBob,

I’ve dealt with Buddy long enough to know that he has conflicts with his own ideals because he can’t live up to them himself. His insecurities as a father makes him want to judege how others run their families. He hates me because I honor those who were injured in Vietnam.

blooming lotus,

You’re right. and the way you approach the Phd is absoultely correct and honest. You seek the substance rather than the form.

Kelvin:
“Yes, my brain is too small to understand double talk, but big enough to detect it when it crosses my path. You have put your rep. in Bagua in double trouble!”

It would make it easier to address your post if you could just put a coherant thought together.

“I’ve dealt with Buddy long enough to know that he has conflicts with his own ideals because he can’t live up to them himself. His insecurities as a father makes him want to judege how others run their families.”

Just because you have experience being advised by mental health professionals doesn’t make you one, sonny. I am a great husband and father. You didn’t bother to check with anyone about my martial art ability, what do you want my wife and childrens email addresses now? Sad sad boy.

“He hates me because I honor those who were injured in Vietnam.”

I don’t hate you Kelvin, you hate yourself. Why else would you need to keep up this pathetic facade?

Buddy,

“Just because you have experience being advised by mental health professionals doesn’t make you one, sonny.”

You’re still getting my name wrong. It shows that you are seeing multiple personalities. Over the years i have adjusted to normal everyday civilian life. My mental health is improving despite the war. But your mental health problems is driven by your own insecurities.

“I am a great husband and father. You didn’t bother to check with anyone about my martial art ability, what do you want my wife and childrens email addresses now? Sad sad boy.”

Like I said before I couldn;t be bothered about your family But still you persist in bring them up as though it is some sort of justification for responsibilities you have not fulfilled. Look if you have mistresses, ex-wives etc. I don’t really care. But on second thoughts do posts them, might be a good read.

As for your martial arts ability, your own double talk has put that in doubt, despite the fact that I was intially prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Kelvin writes:
“You’re still getting my name wrong.”

Really? What is it then?

“It shows that you are seeing multiple personalities. Over the years i have adjusted to normal everyday civilian life. My mental health is improving despite the war. But your mental health problems is driven by your own insecurities.”

You are a card, Kelvin. I don’t think you’d know mental health if it bit you on the azz.

“Like I said before I couldn;t be bothered about your family”

YOU keep bringing it up, son.

“But still you persist in bring them up as though it is some sort of justification for responsibilities you have not fulfilled.”

As though? Where do you come up with these strawman points? Perhaps you’d like to elaborate on what you think those responsibiliies might be. That should be a hoot.

“Look if you have mistresses, ex-wives etc. I don’t really care. But on second thoughts do posts them, might be a good read.”

Have you been reading too many romance novels?

“As for your martial arts ability, your own double talk has put that in doubt, despite the fact that I was intially prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt.”

And yet you did not ask around like I suggested. Why trust your own alleged mind or even what I say? Just go to emptyflower.com and ask. Now that you doubt me, I don’t know whatever I shall do. Kelvin, you might want to reconsider taking those meds. Now take Bob’s advice and sit down and be a good boy.

Oh Kelvin,
You got busted back in 97’. You got your dress pulled up and the fact that you say that you are not Kelvin or feel the need to address the unfactual nature of the claim, gives it credence.

The fact that this endures and that your site was taken down rapidly when you were outed? Ooooh, how ****ing.

Tour Mantis nerd site also bespoke of your love of transformers… MAXIMUS MATERIALIZE!

The truly saddest part was your martial phoyographs, especially the ones of you in Japan in your brand new Gi playing Aiki…

So now you were crippled in " Nam and not a car accident?
The closest you got to Vietnam is that your dad smuggled you here in his scrotum and dropped you into another Vietnamese ex-patriate.

And here you are…
Are you proud of yourself? Is this what you always wanted to be when you grew up?

Keep playing with dolls and watching cartoons Kelvin. You’re good at that.

Please go to the “BLOOMING LOONIE” Thread Kelvin. I have some great news for you.

Buddy,

My name is Ego_Extrodinaire and it is Mr Ego_Extrodinaire to you. But I agree, I used to suffer from post traumatic stress from the days of war. After my first tour, I tried to return and reassimilate with my family back in the States. But it was too hard. I drank and became violent. My wife and children left me. So I signed up for another term. There i met and fell in love with a vietnamese. Eventually I found out that she was a working for the otherside and was having an affair with a vietcong General. Her actions led to the death of my team in mission deep behind enemy lines. For some reason my life was spared but was captured and tourtured for months.

I was later resured by special forces from an anomous tip off of where my location was, apparently by some vietnamese lady and the vietcong general was found dead days after - apparently due to suicide. Though i never saw her again, I feel deep down she loved me and if she is reading this forum now, I like to say I forgive her for her actions and hope she had a happy life. War does crazy things to people.

BAI HE,

Up till now, I have never been able to live up to the fact that my injuries was the result of Nam. When the war was over, people would come up to me and say what happened to you. If i said I was injured in Nam, they spit on my face - saying oooh you’re one of those soldiers who killed the innocent. So I convinced myself that it was a car accident where i lost my legs and my family. Hey what’s the difference, the end result would have been the same.

You are like the Danielle Steele of Martial arts… Weep!

yah… but he writes so well that despite yourself, you read on anyway :wink: :rolleyes: :cool:

Kelvin,
You are pathetic little man whos lies caught up with you because you can’t keep them straight. Your parents are terribly embarrassed that their son turned out to be such a lying Nancy-boy. That time your Uncle caught wacking off the dog left you with an undeniable thrill. You act out erotic fantasies with Transformers and imagine that Donatello and Leonardo plug you from both ends. You haunt hiking paths and rest stops looking for that one brief shining moment when that special older man will teabag you.

“War does crazy things to people”

Or in this case crazy people do crazy things to themselves.