# This applies to most of us on here... **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [October 3, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215 "2003-10-03T14:40:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BAI\_HE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BAI\_HE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BAI_HE)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/61 "2003-10-04T23:36:58Z")
Abel - You got your TKO. Show some class now. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Dragon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/royal_dragon/32/49_2.png) [@Royal\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Royal_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/62 "2003-10-05T00:21:24Z")
LOL!! @ this fight. Not to get involved, but I’m board at the moment so I’ll stir the pot abit. lkfmdc, Seriously, if that is you in the pic, Abel has you by sheer physical conditioning alone. Also, you do seem to be COMPLETELY avoiding his question, AND avoiding his challenge. Also, why do you say that he’s just a forms, and point competitor? Here are some of his comments [i]My guys took ALL the blackbelt fighting. Next, we don’t do point sparring. So you can shove that tag slap \*\*\*\*. Daniel Tamazaki, Tat wongs main student,. Yes I’ve beaten him . He took second to me in 96. I guess you thought I meant someone rescently. After 21 years, Johnny come lately I’m not. The fighting was contact and continuous. [/i] Why do you say he just does point fighting again?? Now, you say this: I have answered you, you are just too dense and desperate for attention to notice… I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I reread this, and I don’t see any answers from lkfmdc on anything. Only accusations that Abel can’t fight, and lkfmdc is a fighting God. Realy, I can be quite the idiot on here at times, but at least I usually go down in flames fighting my point (or concede that I’m wrong), not walking away from it. ---
**Author:** ![BAI\_HE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BAI\_HE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BAI_HE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/63 "2003-10-05T00:34:40Z")
“I’m sure he’s a good Lama Pai sifu.” Do you teach Lama anymore Mr. Ross? Do you teach Gung-Fu at all or just beat up on it here? Is it just a lure to get people to your gym where you tell them Gung-Fu is nonsense and sell them on a San Shou program? I’m interested, because I don’t see any Gung-Fu training on the posted schedule. If you no longer believe in TCMA fine. Why as a traditionally trained Sifu, with claims to wonderful lineage, \*\*\*\* all over TCMA in a rather public manner? Especially when you clearly state that San Shou is a mere component of CMA study. Are you going through a mid life crisis or something? So much of what you say doesn’t add up. You talk crap about Tradionalists and there are many good ones in NY who are not “fantasists”, nor “ineffective” and certainly do not shy away from proving themselves physically. IMHO, this is not news to you I’m sure. So for the love of God start showing CMA a little respect here and there. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Dragon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/royal_dragon/32/49_2.png) [@Royal\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Royal_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/64 "2003-10-05T01:28:11Z")
Check out these pic of Ross!! [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/nice1.jpg](http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/nice1.jpg) [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/nice2.jpg](http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/nice2.jpg) Ross, can we say TKD?? ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Dragon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/royal_dragon/32/49_2.png) [@Royal\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Royal_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/65 "2003-10-05T01:43:04Z")
Sorry Ross, just had to bust your chops a bit here. With the ammo presented, I just couldn’t help myself. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/66 "2003-10-05T02:30:16Z")
"Do you teach Lama anymore Mr. Ross? Do you teach Gung-Fu at all or just beat up on it here? Is it just a lure to get people to your gym where you tell them Gung-Fu is nonsense and sell them on a San Shou program? I’m interested, because I don’t see any Gung-Fu training on the posted schedule. " Thought it it was worth repeating. But in defense, Steve Ventura does teach the Lama Pai at the other gym. ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/67 "2003-10-05T02:32:39Z")
Say, Do you have Diana Inosanto’s permission to use her face on your web site? ---
**Author:** ![BAI\_HE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BAI\_HE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BAI_HE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/68 "2003-10-05T02:51:36Z")
And sinc your recent view of Lama Pai is so dim, do you still claim to teach and or offer the Lama Pai arts? Have you forsaken this lineage? ---
**Author:** ![BAI\_HE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BAI\_HE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BAI_HE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/69 "2003-10-05T03:57:05Z")
Abel pm me, yours is disabeled here, otherwise PM me aat [www.emptyflower.com](http://www.emptyflower.com). Reagrds, Pete ---
**Author:** ![Water\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/70 "2003-10-05T04:17:31Z")
I love this place. ---
**Author:** ![5thBrother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/51bf81/32.png) [@5thBrother](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/5thBrother)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 6:02am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/71 "2003-10-05T06:02:42Z")
🙂 “martial artists” lol dam dis some funny \*\*\*\*… you guys live relatively close i take it? so just freaking set a “date, time and place” its a pretty SIMPLE thing to do… chose a date to fight, a time to fight and a place to fight… stop talking with your mouth and talk with your hands… OR if ur too old (i mean that in a nice way) to compete in full contact why dont u both enter the same muay thai, sanda, mma etc event (might be easier in relation to legal matters)… failing that … you guys could play a sonyplay station video game … “YEAH! i kicked his arse in tekken!” sorry very bored… and the whole internet tongue-fu is twisted… dont just sing it… bring it… ---
**Author:** ![Kristoffer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/kristoffer/32/36_2.png) [@Kristoffer](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Kristoffer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/72 "2003-10-05T12:17:17Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/73 "2003-10-05T16:42:11Z")
“you guys live relatively close i take it?” Man, are you on drugs?!?!? The cal. in under my avatar stands for California, he is in NY(Thats New York). Man, did anyone pass geography in school? ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/74 "2003-10-05T16:43:33Z")
The bagua guys beat him silly? Doh! LOL! 😃 “I think one spanking in his career was enough for him.” He said spanking, chuckle chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Dragon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/royal_dragon/32/49_2.png) [@Royal\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Royal_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/75 "2003-10-05T19:48:00Z")
Geography? Isn’t that the study of ancient cultures or someti’n?? You know, do’se guys tat dig stuff up out of the ground and suff? ---
**Author:** ![CaptinPickAxe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CaptinPickAxe](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CaptinPickAxe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/76 "2003-10-05T20:33:09Z")
Did you notice that ol’ buddy left his lead guard down on one of the kicks. It had a serious TKD twang to it. oops…It helps to read the thread not just look @ pics.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kristoffer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/kristoffer/32/36_2.png) [@Kristoffer](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Kristoffer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/77 "2003-10-05T21:09:47Z")
this thread needs more pics 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Dragon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/royal_dragon/32/49_2.png) [@Royal\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Royal_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/78 "2003-10-05T21:24:38Z")
Did you notice that ol’ buddy left his lead guard down on one of the kicks. It had a serious TKD twang to it. Reply] Actually, he dropped his lead guard in BOTH pics I posted. That’s why I posted them. He’s suposedly a San Shou guy, but apparently he’s teaching TKD’s bad habits. I bet his primary art was originally TKD. It clearly shows in his kicking tactics. ---
**Author:** ![Kristoffer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/kristoffer/32/36_2.png) [@Kristoffer](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Kristoffer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/79 "2003-10-05T21:29:20Z")
Actually, it’s stupid to judge someone’s fighting abillity by 2 pics. ---
**Author:** ![BAI\_HE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BAI\_HE](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/BAI_HE)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215/80 "2003-10-05T22:00:32Z")
What it looks like he’s doing is torqueing his body to get more power into his kicks. His kicking form reminds me of Peter Aerts of K-1 fame who is a very effective kicker. [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/this-applies-to-most-of-us-on-here/23215.md?page=5)