What do you think?
Here is something from me.
1.You should not let them get close to you,if aren´t having a defense stance.
2.Don´t wait for their shots,if you aren´t having a safety position.
things 2 not do
u don’t wait – if u feel it’s going 2 go violent … strike … strike often … strike till he drops … can always apologize later if u were wrong.
though it pains me to say, ginger fist’s advice sounds right to me.
stuart b.
I don’t know to what extent you can really apologize later. Firstly you have (at minimum) just committed battery (assault in many states). In the even that you chose a weapon (weather improvised or carried) you are somewhere between felony battery (agrivated battery/assault) and murder / attempted murder (depending on how it turns out).
OTOH, I do agree with the general sentiment, if you are about to be fighting, fight. Don’t wiat.
well, yeah. no voice of experience here. but i’d guess that once you’ve committed to that course of action, that’s no time to then get all half-arsed about it.
point taken
I don’t know to what extent you can really apologize later. Firstly you have (at minimum) just committed battery (assault in many states). In the even that you chose a weapon (weather improvised or carried) you are somewhere between felony battery (agrivated battery/assault) and murder / attempted murder (depending on how it turns out).
–point taken the apology bit was tongue in cheek … better to b judged by 9 than carried by 6 (think that’s how it goes)
OTOH, I do agree with the general sentiment, if you are about to be fighting, fight. Don’t wait.
–kill the ramp up … take 'em out be4 the guy switches mentally
motrin ap … motrin
though it pains me to say, ginger fist’s advice sounds right to me.
–dude!! that must’ve been on par with having dull knitting needles shoved in ur eyes!!
hey mate, when you’re reasonable with me, it’s no worse than sticking brand new cotton swabs in my eyes.
[grin]
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hey mate, when you’re reasonable with me, it’s no worse than sticking brand new cotton swabs in my eyes.
–ok … so long as they’re not 1st dipped in iodine
you know, these conversations are a whole lot more enjoyable and productive when you’re not calling everyone names for disagreeing with you.
i might even start [thunder clap] looking forward to them.
stuart b.
Things you should never do in a fight
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Pretend to beg for mercy while really planning to smash the opponent in the nose…if they get to you first and beat you you look like a snivelling wussbag.
And of course, the number one thing you should never do in a fight…
LOSE
I’m not a believer in holding back 
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Never let the guy get too close. This may sound obvious, but I’ve seen a lot of people get headbutted or kneed in the groin because they let the person get too close.
Here’s something I used to use when working as a bouncer, which I realized after I finished doorwork that Geoff Thompson also uses and calls “The Fence” :
Keep the person at around arms-length. You can do this by having your hands up, palms facing outwards in a non-threatening manner. If the guy tries to move closer you can block his shoulder. If he tries to strike you’ve already got your hands up to cover or block, and if you wish to strike you’ve got your perfect set-up. My preferred option was to spin the guy around and apply a sleeper choke. -
Never back down. This might sound crazy, but it works. If you back down, some people (especially predator-types) will take advantage of that.
Most people really don’t want to get into fights, even if they’re acting like a tough-guy. I learned this also from working as a bouncer. Bouncing is 90% bluff. I’ve been in a possible multiple attack situation, but because I was sooo keen to fight against these four guys, they thought something wasn’t right, and so one of them tried to placate me and a fight was avoided. Always give the guy a way out, but don’t look like you’re trying to avoid the fight. -
Don’t underestimate your opponent. This means many things, such as never let the guy get the first punch in (you don’t know – he could be a boxing champ with a punch like a mule kick). Always assume he is (i) a trained fighter, (ii) has friends coming and (iii) might have a weapon. So, assuming these things, hit hard, hit first and keep hitting until he is finished.
im not sure
if you have your hands facing out…it would be easy to apply joint locks to your wrist…maybe im just visualizing what you mean incorrectly.
another bad thing
something else you shouldn’t do in a fight is stop to chat with onlookers…even if it is about the fight.
Number one thing not to do in a Fight
I just thought I would share this, because I actually saw this happen earlier today…
I was walking to class today in the rain and saw two guys arguing. As one began to walk away the other came up behind him to rush him. However before he could throw his first punch he slipped and fell, the other guy then soundly stomped his face in. Moral of the story know your limits, know your surroundings… and try not to fall.
Appropriate
This cannot be repeated enough times:
Wear appropriate clothes and shoes at all times.
Do not wear clothes, especially pants, that are too binding. At the least , it’s embarrassing when you tear your pants. At the worse, it ends you on your butt…deadly.
Do not wear shoes that are too heavy, especially if you have not practiced kicking with shoes before (really slows your kick) Try not to wear shoes that are too slick on the bottoms…tends to end you on your butt, should your kick miss.
PaleDragon wrote:
“if you have your hands facing out…it would be easy to apply joint locks to your wrist…maybe im just visualizing what you mean incorrectly.”
If you’re in a confrontation, then the basic hand position should be hands up, palms facing your opponent in a relaxed stance, as this is a non-threatening posture. This will allow you to block or parry any attacks, or attack without telegraphing.
As for the wrist locks - pfft! What streetfighter is going to apply a wristlock ?
Besides, if someone wants to grab my wrist in a streetfight then fine, but they better expect me to be punching them in the head at the same time with my other hand. Wrists locks would have to be the most over-rated technique in martial arts. Even if you could apply a wrist-lock, then what ? The guy probably won’t even know what you’re doing, so it’s not as if he is going to calm down or tap. Maybe break his wrist if he keeps struggling ? Have you ever tried that ? I’ve busted guys arms with armbars, but a wrist is very hard to break, and it’s hardly going to stop the fight.
Wrist lock
I’m sorry but this is meant as a constructive critisism when I say that it’s rather unlikely that in a street fight you are going to be wristlocked.
In a street fight locks are not going to be pulled off straight away.
Ok maybe after an initial primary strike to get a reaction and then control and restraint if thats what you want to do while the opponent is weakened and if you are able to pull it off.
Personally if someone tried to grab hold of my wrist and apply a lock, even though when studying various systems and learning ways to counter these locks, I think sticking a finger in the eye of the opponent will get a desired effect.
the limitations
of trying joint locks on a fresh opponent are apparent…however you said that if they walk toward you you’re hands are already up to shove them back(or something to that effect) if you’re allowing that contact a broken wrist would be possible…sure maybe it wouldnt end the fight…but leaves you with one less weapon/block…you’re right about this being rare when dealing with a streetfighter but i think there are many things you train for/take into consideration that will most likely never occur.
another thing
wrist locks i learn usually keep the free arm out of range or roll into a another lock…im not really disagreeing with your ideal “guard” i was just wondering what you thought of that possibility. I guess also its important to stay non-threatening because its before an actual altercation starts…would you keep this guard after attacks have already been exchanged?