Even if ideas = concepts, I’m still not expressing ideas if I’m fighting, except in the most abstract and practically useless manner. Unless it goes like this: my idea is to kick the crap out of this guy before he does that to me or my family member. Sure, I’ll express that idea :rolleyes:
Even though the list of people Victor rightly said were living their arts is correct, it doesn’t mean they were expressing concepts in anything more than the aforementioned abstract and useless way when they fought.
When you fight you have a definite objective: to beat your opponent and survive. Sure, that could be a concept, but thinking of it that way doesn’t help me achieve my objective.
Artistic expression? Expressing your emotions and feelings with the sole, circular objective of sharing them with a fellow human… is artistic expression. So to say that in fighting I’m expressing my emotions, or using artistic expression is total bollocks. My objective is, and I reiterate, to mess up my enemy, not to share my feelings and humanity with him. LOL, the pavement is my canvas, my attacker is my paint! 
The only feelings I want in a fight are animal, or if I can transcend that, as Mr Chu said and Sihing 73 hinted at, a detachment.
Sounds more to me like most of you are talking about sparring.
[QUOTE=Mr Punch;946275]Even if ideas = concepts, I’m still not expressing ideas if I’m fighting, except in the most abstract and practically useless manner. Unless it goes like this: my idea is to kick the crap out of this guy before he does that to me or my family member. Sure, I’ll express that idea :rolleyes:
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I think the incorporation of ideas and concepts into fighting is more of a strategic thing. After reviewing where you are at and skills you have built and overall movement and strategy, you come to plateaus where to progress to a higher level takes some evaluation at the concept level. This usually requires a skilled coach. From there you can design some drills to incorporate these ideas and concepts into your hardwiring or body karma, because there’s no time for mental application of ideas and concepts in a fight or alive sparring scenario.
The mind conceptualizes and designs in what to build into the body. The drills can be conceptualized, and yet to be effective they have to be trained in to the athletic framework of conditioned response in an alive stressed environment.
Also, after becoming acclimitized to the more shocking aspects of a truly alive sparring environment, one can evaluate the overall progress of a fight and adjust mentally to a different tactic. In that environment it is most helpful for a competitor to train complementary scenarios.
[QUOTE=Wayfaring;946279]I think the incorporation of ideas and concepts into fighting is more of a strategic thing. After reviewing where you are at and skills you have built and overall movement and strategy, you come to plateaus where to progress to a higher level takes some evaluation at the concept level. This usually requires a skilled coach. From there you can design some drills to incorporate these ideas and concepts into your hardwiring or body karma, because there’s no time for mental application of ideas and concepts in a fight or alive sparring scenario.[/quote]That’s a reasonable point and nicely put.
Except that… body karma bit. 
Yeah. That’s horrible. :eek: I think I just tasted a chunk.