Shaolin36,
Tam Fei Pang is the son of Tam Sam. I myself do not know what his english name was, or if he ever had one. Such questions like these maybe answered by Si-Fu Lacey.
I know that the Lacey’s incorporate the Chow Gar within the Buk Sing curriculum. I myself have seen very little Chow Gar. But I am curious to know if Si-Fu Lacey teaches the Chow Gar/Bak Siu Lum sets first before one begins the Buk Sing sets?
As you are probably aware, the Buk Sing sets are traditionally small in “number” but not necessarliy in “length”. We have no Buk Sing weaponry. The emphasis is primarily an open hand combat system.
No problem. I know how particular the Lacey’s are about disclosing information, and you should respect those wishes of your Si-Fu. I know it is often hard to draw the line sometimes as to where particular info would be classified as “exposure” vs. general conversational information. In any case, Si-Fu Lacey ( as well as other Si-Fu) has his/their reasons and I equally respect that, and I wouldn’t want you to go against his wishes. He’s got good reasons for it.
On the other hand, one misfortune that this can create, is that it does not demonstrate tighter circles of trust within the Buk Sing branches themselves. But still, I can see this being hard to do seeing that we don’t always know who is on the other side of the computer if words themselves were to expose too much. But that’s my opinion. I have worked very hard in just obtaining general research information, and that in itself has been an arduous task. One Si-Fu under Lai Hung told me basically that this is one of the most difficult tasks to do within the Buk Sing branches. And he has been more than right. As a matter of fact, the Lai Hung school won’t even make any comment in regards to issues that don’t even reflect on them…go figure.
Nonetheless, that’s the way it is, and I seriously doubt that’s gonna change any time soon.
Your Buk Sing Bro dropped me an e-mail the other day and said that he was going to be out of town for a while. But if you do get the chance on seeing him, tell him “Hi” for me, and I appreciate your willingness to pass on the message for me.
And by the way, at any time you would like to drop me a line directly, feel free: ChanGongSan@aol.com
WOOOOW!!!
I trained under Sifu Dave Lacey in Melbourne when I was younger (http://www.pantherfist.com/melbourneclass.html – I’m the guy on the far right). I still remember and am grateful for the quality of the traditional training methods Sifu used to use. I haven’t done any martial arts for several years now, but am thinking of taking it up again.
I came across this board by accident and you can imagine my surprise to find more of Sifu Lacey’s students online.
Does he still say “tuck your ass in you lazy bum!!!” and stuff like that?
Anyway, I would appreciate it if you said hello to Sifu for me and passed on my best wishes for Sifu and his school in the new year next time you see him.
I would be interested in obtaining a copy of those articles if you guys would not mind. My e-mail: ChanGongSan@aol.com
This would be great. I used to have that '91 edition Inside Kung-Fu article on the Lacey’s. I’m sure I have it somewhere, but just have been unable to find it.
LOL. I spent quite a great deal of time with Master Lacey. I don't see him as often since I am working on my ring skills, but I still see him and plan on training with him and consider him as one of my dearest friends and mentor. Your "tuck your ass in you lazy bum!" was quite often directed to me. He mellowed out a bit through the years but seemed to pick up a new brand of crazy as of late. He always tells me "You'll never find another sifu as crazy as me." Well he's right, he's one of a kind.
Shaolin36, Bon Voyage bro, get at some of those hula girls and give ‘em the ol’ Gwa Sow Charp for me, and as sifu says “Beware the deadliest strike of all, the Beavah Claw!”
Thanks Shaolin36, hope sifu still remembers who I am - yeah everyone at the gwoon used to calll me Anton - although Sifu had a few nick names he gave me cos of my Russian background (eg. Rasputin, Liniviy - ‘lazy’).
lol @ “Beaver claw”… that used to be a classic. I remember Sifu going through a form with me on a Saturday and we came to this bit where you do those continuous circular pun kiu’s (spelling??) - anyway sifu goes, “what the hell is that? Bigger movements you lazy bum!.. imagine you’re massaging a girls tits, not a small girl, we’re talking Dolly Parton here - there’s a handful!”
I was only about 13 or 14 at the time and could hardly practice cos I was laughing my ass off.
The way he used to promptly deal with smartasses and disrespectful d|ckheads that used to come in was funny as well (I heard he chased some schmuck across the street with a Kwondo once!).
Aahh.. memories…
What forms is Sifu teaching you these days? I knew about 5 but can’t even remember the names properly any more. I remember there was:
‘Duen Da’
‘Siu (or was it ‘Say’) Ping Kuen’
‘Teet Jeet Kuen’
‘Siu Sub Chi’ (I think this was the last one I learned)