Ever asked a training partner to really try and punch you to test your skills? tell him to throw two punches (combinations) to really hit you whenever he’s ready… when he attacks try out your hand techniques… no kicks!
Yes, I have done this but my results don’t match up with any of the options. My technique worked probably 75% of the time, but then again I suck.
Also, it is not a real test unless your training partner trains under a different style or no style at all.
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ABandit
sounds like you rock, kinda. 
75% is kinda consistent, right? your partner has to be creative to attack you in any manner he wishes.
what did you learn from your experience?
when i tried it..
i couldnt get my partner to really hit me. frustrating because my friend is really polite and didnt want to commit to hurting me…
eventually he got the idear and began to pick me apart. he came up with some interesting ways and combinations to try on me. all of which added to my frustration.
biggest problem was i kept chasing his hands. i even tried a famous teacher’s b-o-e-c approach and got faked out cos his elbow movement fooled me quite often.
much much much appreciation to my new friends for helping me get past this impasse.
later on…more confidence with this partner and now working with different partners. now a guy with longer reach and quicker speed jabs the fvck out of me from across the room. there must be a way…
before if someone had said - “don’t play their game, just defend and attack at the same time” i would have nodded intellectually and think i was doing just that. after trying it and eating punches i have a slightly better picture of wc. just a little tho. - ken
yea well
Its called sparring!!
why just 2 punches? Why just a small combination? Why not have him/her try to just pummel you? Do you think someone on the street is just going to throw 2 punches and give up? This is what sparring is for! When you spar you have to look at it this way: Do you dominate any opponent of your rank/experience or lower? Or do you get dominated? Or does it tend to be more of a draw?
Fact is you want to be able to dominate. Don’t worry so much about if you take hits or not, but rather, who is landing the more important, more devistating type of hits, you, or your opponent? The fact is, that on the street, no matter how good you are, it is very likely the person will get a shot in. It is up to you to make sure that you protect all your vital targets to make any shot that does come in, a minor shot. Also, you want to make sure all your shots have as much effect as possible.
Just my thoughts
Assumption is the mother of tragedy. Just keep and open mind and be ready
This must be a humerous post!?
In my club, you have one of two choices. Either eat the punches or counter attack. We train for street reality, getting hit is part of it. If anybody says they never get hit watchout, sounds like B.S.
Peace,
Dave Simmons
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I don’t know about the “Not getting hit is bull” line
I don’t get hit ever. Infact I have never been hit by anyone ever. I don’t train in blocking to get hit. I train in learning how to avoid having someone swing at you. I am a very peaceful person and would never want to hit someone or to get hit. But if some is tryin’ to hurt me I and not going to be so peaceful. In training I think you must slowly learn to avoid everything. Who is going to learn faster the one who pushes to hard and gets injured or the one who trains without injury time? I am not so good that I can block every kind or strike but I feel that if I get hit in training I’ll get hit in a fight. How is my score? Never been hit. I would say pritty good. I get the **** kicked out of me like you would never think real. I fall from up to 25 feet in the air onto ice. This on a regular basis. Now if you think getting hit in the face hurts by a fist try snowboarding I have been getting the **** kicked out of me for 9 years not. I don’t think a getting slamed onto the ground helps your snowboarding at all. But we are talking about fighting. It is the same thing though in snowboarding you try to land on your feet. In fighting you try now to get hit. If you make a mistake you get beat in both. I think landing helps in snowboarding, just as I think avoiding punches (aka blocking) helps in training for a fight. Sure it may help a little bit to make you not want to get hit. But others may quit quickly if it hurts them, more than helps.
feed back is always good thing so I can learn
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
“why just 2 punches? Why just a small combination? Why not have him/her try to just pummel you? Do you think someone on the street is just going to throw 2 punches and give up? This is what sparring is for! When you spar you have to look at it this way: Do you dominate any opponent of your rank/experience or lower? Or do you get dominated? Or does it tend to be more of a draw?”
No, “going all out” to hurt someone is called fighting. If you can spar full out with no restrictions and not injure your opponent, then rest assured, you will get the same results on the street.
Never been hit??!?
Sorry, I can’t believe that. It’s like saying, “I’ve been snowboarding for 9 years and never fell off my board.”
If you’ve never been hit in sparring then you’ve never sparred. Getting hit is part of the learning process (not necessarily getting hit hard; just someone getting past your guard).
Sam
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Umm … yeahhhhhh … that’s grrrreat … – Lumbergh
yin-yang li(ar)on
I don’t get hit ever. Infact I have never been hit by anyone ever.
–i always wondered who superman was in real life, now i know, he’s not a mild mannered reporter, he’s yin the friendly lying lion.
I don’t train in blocking to get hit. I train in learning how to avoid having someone swing at you.
–gwaddamnit!! & all this time i’ve been training blocking systems to maximize the # of times i got hit!! thanks for the keen insight batman, er, superman.
I am a very peaceful person and would never want to hit someone or to get hit.
–oh 4 the love of money don’t b so modest. u r a lying sack of sh*t who doesn’t know anything more than what’s found in the comic books ur mommy lets u read. there, … some1 had to step up and sing ur praises.
But if some is tryin’ to hurt me I and not going to be so peaceful.
–so, … ur only going to b a little peaceful, or only moderately peaceful, or …?
In training I think you must slowly learn to avoid everything.
–and by ur avoiding reality u have proven urself to b a master
Who is going to learn faster the one who pushes to hard and gets injured or the one who trains without injury time?
–ok, i’m going to toss a coin in2 the air 5 times, heads 3 or more times means the answer is …
I am not so good that I can block every kind or strike but I feel that if I get hit in training I’ll get hit in a fight.
–?s with the modesty thingamabob again? cummon lone ranger, er, superman, my image of u is getting tainted
How is my score? Never been hit. I would say pritty good. I get the **** kicked out of me like you would never think real.
–oh, okay yin liar, no1 can touch u with their hands, but u are so fuc)king pathetic that feet as a matter of routine slam u. say, can i interest u in some beach front property i own in the rocky mountains?
I fall from up to 25 feet in the air onto ice.
–if u ever get 2 where u fall 25 feet thru the ice onto the air call me. i’m not easily impressed u know.
This on a regular basis.
–i’m convinced, chronic brain damage 4 sure.
Now if you think getting hit in the face hurts by a fist try snowboarding
–gotcha beat there partner. once, i was surrounded by a whole gaggle of snowboards, mean, nasty, hard faced lot they were, with long, sharp, pointy teeth, & the worst peter max knock off geo design schemes u’ve ever seen. in utter desperation i busted out a can butch wax & went hammer & tong with them 4 hours it seemed. finally, the butch wax hardened in the dropping temperature, and then, i had 'em right were i wanted 'em!! blazing hell of a bon fire that night, it could be seen 4 miles i tell u.
I have been getting the **** kicked out of me for 9 years not.
–well damnit tonto, er, superman, give it up! u r at least 15 yrs old now & no longer a kid.
I don’t think a getting slamed onto the ground helps your snowboarding at all.
–bet it doesn’t do much 4 ur looks either.
But we are talking about fighting.
–and by gwad when we talk about fighting we talk about snow boarding!!! did i ever tell u about the time i was surrounded by a whole gaggle of 'em?
In fighting you try now to get hit.
–if it’s all the same with you buck rogers, er, superman, i prefer to not try getting hit now or later.
feed back is always good thing so I can learn
–Jeepers wonder woman, er, superman, no1 can teach u anything as u have it all. brain damage from both repeated impact trauma & freezing temps.
maybe I have never spared, maybe I do applications at half speed
I am by no means a master but by your ranting you know even less than I. After 22 years and being rich you should have hired someone other than a karate bimbo to teach you. You could have all the money in the word and you would still not be able to afford a skills. Your senile at this age? OK, then I’ve wasted my breath I’ve save that for the next episode. After all this is a comic strip, right.
Oh and the age insult only works in high school and in the retirement homes. I don’t like to hurt people so you have a proble with that too hmm…
You are not as bright as you think. Oh and if you respond cool. I’m not intrested in what you have to say anymore so boring. making me tired.
You only wish you knew what it’s like to be 25 feet in the air looking down at people’s heads. Nothing to do with being cool(or bad ass) it’s called fun buy some.
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
maybe I have never spared, maybe I do applications at half speed
I am by no means a master but by your ranting you know even less than I. After 22 years and being rich you should have hired someone other than a karate bimbo to teach you. You could have all the money in the word and you would still not be able to afford a skills. Your senile at this age? OK, then I’ve wasted my breath I’ve save that for the next episode. After all this is a comic strip, right.
Oh and the age insult only works in high school and in the retirement homes. I don’t like to hurt people so you have a proble with that too hmm…
You are not as bright as you think. Oh and if you respond cool. I’m not intrested in what you have to say anymore so boring. making me tired.
You only wish you knew what it’s like to be 25 feet in the air looking down at people’s heads. Nothing to do with being cool(or bad ass) it’s called fun buy some. 
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
funny
Can I just say that I’m new to this site but reading this had me laughing my a*s off!!!
First I was laughing at Yin Lion’s comments and then I was in bits at Ginger fists comments!!!
With regards to the topic, thats what sparring is, testing your own skills against someone who is trying to hit you as much as you are trying to hit them. Try it with your back to the wall, that’s interesting.
Yin, Dude! Are you serious? I’ve never been hit? Probably because you have never sparred. I can appreciate the fact that you wish to avoid confrontation, most of us do, but unless you get a very good pre-emptive strike in first the harsh reality is that you will get hit.
When sparring you not only learn how to not get hit so often you also learn how to take a shot.
My advise would be, firstly spa, secondly get out of that dream world where you think you will never ever ever get hit and thirdly don’t get this site mixed up with a snowboarding site. It might look similar ( But i’m thinking that it doesn’t ) but its not.
Everyone has the right to defend themselves effectively.
yin(yanker) li(ar)on
maybe I have never spared, maybe I do applications at half speed
–i couldn’t care less about whether u’ve ever spared at any speed. this isn’t a bowling forum u know
I am by no means a master …
–we all know that. u r a functionally illiterate as*shole with ur mouth in hyper drive while ? little brain matter u have is in neutral
–but by your ranting you know even less than I.
ooookkkkaaaayyyy … that’s 1 hell of a leap in reasoning, but u r an as*shole with brain damage so i guess it’s alright
–After 22 years and being rich you should have hired someone other than a karate bimbo to teach you.
straight from the kwongsai jook lum temple 2 my hands, 3 generations of my family, i am the 4th. btw, that’s southern praying mantis kung fu sh*it 4 brains. guess all those falls really scrambled u, eh, brain dead boy? 
–You could have all the money in the word and you would still not be able to afford a skills.
really? maybe u could get a 2nd job sucking coc*k on the street corner and afford an education. looks like ur gig at mcdonalds isn’t helping u
–Your senile at this age?
no, no, no, think, try 2 remember, u r the idiot who keeps falling on his head, not me
–OK, then I’ve wasted my breath I’ve save that for the next episode.
holy shit, u r winded from typing a few unintelligible sentences on a key board? :eek: man, u are 1 fucked up weak individual, c a doctor asap as it seems all those falls have really wasted u dude
–After all this is a comic strip, right.
take a look at the palm of ur hand, if it has an r written on it, then it is right, now if it has an l written on it …
–Oh and the age insult only works in high school and in the retirement homes.
well u just keep that in ? little mind u have left and when u finally get 2 high school use it 2 ur best advantage
–I don’t like to hurt people so you have a proble with that too hmm…
sh*it dude, i don’t even know ? a proble is much less whether i have 1 or not. did u need to borrow a proble or something? check the yellow pages, maybe there’s a proble store in ur area
–You are not as bright as you think.
damn, i hate it when u read my mind
–Oh and if you respond cool. I’m not intrested in what you have to say anymore so boring.
oh, okay, if i respond it’s cool, not that ur interested or anything like that, damned snow boarding really did a number on ur brain matter didn’t it?
–making me tired.
there u r again, complaining about being tired after non-exertional activity, get 2 ur doctor asap, i think u r dying :eek:
–You only wish you knew what it’s like to be 25 feet in the air looking down at people’s heads.
uhh, … no, not really. sorry 2 disappoint u but i can do that at the local mall. just go up 2 the 3rd floor & look at the skull tops of all the happy shoppers on the 1st floor can’t c the attraction, really
–Nothing to do with being cool(or bad ass)
u r right there, nothing 2 do with either of those things, or martial arts 4 that matter
–it’s called fun buy some.
damned good suggestion, i think i’ll go fu*ck my girlfriend and her twin sister at the same time, fun you suggest & fun it shall b thanx, u r a hell of a man, 4 a brain donor
Bessho
75% aint that good, particularly if the 25% you missed are good solid shots. Also, I have been practicing my defence for over 14 years so I would hope it has gotten reasonable 
I have learned a few things from this kind of training.
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You’d better be ready to take a hit if you want to fight. No matter how good you are there is always someone faster/stronger/more experienced. Learn to take a hit.
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Pure defence is much harder than defence and counter. If your opponent knows that you are not going to counter attack, then they can afford to commit fully to their attack, putting you at a distinct disadvantage. The game changes when you are allowed to counter attack.
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When you launch a counter attack, make sure your defensive move has been completely successful in not only defending against the attack but also in nullifying follow-ups, otherwise you will probably end up eating another punch or walking into a setup.
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Watching the eyes and/or the shoulders of your attacker is the best way to read what their next move will be. Use your peripheral vision. Do not watch the hands (especially if they are allowed to kick ;)).
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Do not allow your body movement to become predictable. If you are inclined to step back from an attack, learn to hold your ground or even step in once in a while.
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Learn to trust what you have learned from your art.
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I know I said I wouldn’t respond but I guess it’s too dumb
you have to buy sex from your girlfriend pour bastard but sence you must have the last word I bet you’ll reply again. :eek:
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
Hey, whats wrong with buying sex from your girlfriend? I do it all the… oh, wait. Nevermind.
The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison,
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!
frank’s dead on target
Hey, whats wrong with buying sex from your girlfriend? I do it all the… oh, wait. Nevermind.
some call it a date, let’s c, i spend my $ buying her flowers, taking her out 2 dinner ($), maybe a show or 2 the club (more $) … damn, X 2 cuz i like 2 have her sister around sometimes. i am 1 very sorry bastard … spending all that $ & such
oh well, if a sorry bastard i must b, then a sorry bastard i am
Oops, time 2 go fuc*k the twins again … sorry bastard that i am :rolleyes:
>> Hey, whats wrong with buying sex from your girlfriend? I do it all the… oh, wait. Nevermind. <<
Those nice girls from the escort agency don’t count as “girlfriend”
I find that my face gets it most of the time (75%), but the sides of my head and everywhere else, I’m able to keep from getting hit about 90% of the time.
I gotta learn to watch out for my face.
Robin
Surrender yourself to nature and be all that you are.