# technique discussion: pau choih **URL:** \ **Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\ **Created:** [November 27, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892 "2007-11-27T22:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![htowndragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce7236/32.png) [@htowndragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/htowndragon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/1 "2007-11-27T22:24:19Z")
CLF and Lama, both very powerful techniques. question is, can you land it? ---
**Author:** ![diego](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/diego/32/124_2.png) [@diego](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/diego)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/2 "2007-11-27T23:02:14Z")
i just jump left bow stance into him and press his upper body with my left hand and pow to the gut with added batman sound efx 🙂 How do you do it in theory and can you land it?. ---
**Author:** ![Jeong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/jeong/32/728_2.png) [@Jeong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jeong)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/3 "2007-11-27T23:04:11Z")
Sometimes yeah. It’s a good technique because most fighting doesn’t come down the vertical line. I almost always use it as a defense technique, someone comes at me and I deflect, move in, and come over the top with Pau Choy. ---
**Author:** ![Steeeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Steeeve](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Steeeve)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/4 "2007-11-27T23:27:52Z")
You forget to mention hung gar ,Fu jow pai,tong bei,wing chun,pakua hsing I and so on used the pau choi…the vertical upward attack or defense…different names,different used ,different weapons… ``` You should be more descriptive about the chinese name you used ....:) ``` Steeve ---
**Author:** ![htowndragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce7236/32.png) [@htowndragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/htowndragon)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/5 "2007-11-28T06:22:11Z")
its hard to be descriptive with chinese. since i am chinese, its kinda like “you should know what i’m talking about” lol ---
**Author:** ![The\_Xia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@The\_Xia](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/The_Xia)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/6 "2007-11-28T06:38:23Z")
Maybe actions will speak louder then words. Here is a photo of Lam Sai Wing striking with a pau choih. [http://www.lghk.org/en/gallery/lsw/pages/027\_jpg.htm](http://www.lghk.org/en/gallery/lsw/pages/027_jpg.htm) It’s used quite a few times in this video. [http://youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kx4iXZbW8](http://youtube.com/watch?v=a6Kx4iXZbW8) ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/7 "2007-11-28T06:40:09Z")
[QUOTE=The Xia;821511]Here is a photo of Lam Sai Wing striking with a pau choih. [http://www.lghk.org/en/gallery/lsw/pages/027\_jpg.htm](http://www.lghk.org/en/gallery/lsw/pages/027_jpg.htm) [/QUOTE] in Lama Pai, that is a Pak Yik Paau, not a “pure” Paau ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/8 "2007-11-28T07:04:31Z")
this is Paau Choih [http://lionsroar.name/david\_22.jpg](http://lionsroar.name/david_22.jpg) the pic is probably older than a lot of you on here 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bigdoing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/bigdoing/32/449_2.png) [@bigdoing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bigdoing)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/9 "2007-11-28T18:24:26Z")
I’ve always used pau like an upercut. Thats how it was explained to me. So, yeah, its not hard to land. its an upper cut…with more extension depending on the range. Actually when I fight (its been a while)…so when i did fight…I worked one combo a lot…(chinese names from my teacher, im probably wrong ill just use english.) combo…left hand faint…right hand upper cut (pau)…left hand horizontal sao..right hand 45.sao… I dirlled this combo a lot..stances vary dependent on situation obviously. but yeah…my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![jdhowland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jdhowland](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/jdhowland)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/10 "2007-11-28T18:57:11Z")
The most frequent use of paau that i’ve seen in sparring is as an uppercut with the arm bent. My favorite use is the classical longhand paau simultaneous strike and throw with the upper arm to the opponent’s axilla coupled with “white crane skims water.” When it’s done right, the fist never touches your opponent. I love the deception in Chinese arts. ---
**Author:** ![CaliKF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@CaliKF](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CaliKF)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/11 "2007-11-28T19:07:20Z")
There are many variations of Pao Choih. In CLF and Hung the straight arm is probably one of the most common or “familiar” (for lack of a better word) as lkfmdc posted a picture of. Then you have the reverse or Fon Pao, the upper cut that we refer to as jiu geng pao. I would say that the uppercut would be the “easiest” to land but when you combine the techniques like fan pao / pao then landing the straight arm can be landed as well. I don’t use pao choih as an advancing or initiating movement as much as I do a defensive or reactive one. ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/12 "2007-11-28T19:19:19Z")
Pau Chui = cannon fist ? ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/13 "2007-11-28T19:26:29Z")
[QUOTE=sanjuro\_ronin;821691]Pau Chui = cannon fist ?[/QUOTE] we actually use the charater for “sling” ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/14 "2007-11-28T19:28:56Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;821695]we actually use the charater for “sling”[/QUOTE] Singapore Sling ?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CaliKF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@CaliKF](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CaliKF)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/15 "2007-11-28T19:46:57Z")
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;821695]we actually use the charater for “sling”[/QUOTE] Is there a corrilation for the sling and cannon? What I mean is we call it cannon fist as well. But I was wondering if the reason for the sling charachter would be because they didn’t have one for that particular word? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![hskwarrior](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/hskwarrior/32/612_2.png) [@hskwarrior](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/hskwarrior)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/16 "2007-11-28T20:19:35Z")
all of the pow choy’s that we do in the Lau Bun lineage stop at “EYE” level. meaning th flat part of the fist is level with your eyes. I know we know our gung fu and why “WE” do what we do, but Ross, or anyone else who pau choy’s that high, can you tell me why you do it that way? is it a set up to another move? do you guys feel it generates more power? you know along those lines. ---
**Author:** ![CLFNole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/clfnole/32/50_2.png) [@CLFNole](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/CLFNole)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/17 "2007-11-28T20:28:12Z")
I think that is one of Lama earmarks in the way they do their pow choy. ---
**Author:** ![hskwarrior](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/hskwarrior/32/612_2.png) [@hskwarrior](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/hskwarrior)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/18 "2007-11-28T20:36:38Z")
thats what i thought… ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/19 "2007-11-28T20:39:42Z")
there are stories that Wong Yan Lam lifted 100 lb “ear clappers” (mok yee pai) and that his Paau Choih was used like an uppercut to the chin and was very fierce I personally always found it better as a “clear” like a Teut Kiuh, or when used like a Tai Jaang, to attack the elbow joint ---
**Author:** ![hskwarrior](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/hskwarrior/32/612_2.png) [@hskwarrior](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/hskwarrior)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892/20 "2007-11-28T20:59:24Z")
so its that one of lama’s power moves [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/technique-discussion-pau-choih/41892.md?page=2)