what do you guys(gals) think is the most important part of tan sau in a real fight?
vts
To close the gap and to get your attack in …
Am i right?
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
It does have many uses though…
I bet most people think right away as deflection…
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…
I’ll wait to hear what Whipping Hand says. 
[i]Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society.
The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." [/i]
Like in an Elvis Presley movie, if a guy throws a right punch at you, you use a left tan sao and then pivot and lean right back while you c*ck your right arm and then you can lurch forward while throwing a punch at him.
Max
Are you ready rogue?
You sure? Here it comes…
The strike.
finally wanking hand i must agree.
although it was a trick question there is odviously no doulbt that you can’t fool a fool.
vts
Do techniques exist in a real fight?
S.Teebas
‘Techniques’ exist for those who want them to exist.
So whether they exist in a fight or not depends on who is fighting and their beliefs.
It also depends on how you define the word ‘techniques’?
One of the definitions in the MacQuarie Dictionary is ‘a way of accomplishing’. According to this definition, ‘techniques’ exist in every fight, because once the fight is over, something has been accomplished, ie the fight ended.
Max
[This message was edited by Gluteus Maximus on 11-19-01 at 11:01 PM.]
vts…
Which strike are you referring to?
“Do techniques exist in a real fight?”
That depends… are you a fighter or a martial artist?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> ..are you a fighter or a martial artist? [/quote]
Im someone who wants to get the job done efortlessly (at the time im fighting@!)
S.Teebas
senseless swinging
is a technique too…
“senseless swinging is a technique too”
only if it’s not senseless.
Sure it is… no logic in a fight.
Trick questions, one line replies, ego battles, this palce realy is poor for anything other than practising your flaming techniques. It seems to be the most senior posters who are the most immature in the subject of their posts. Shame really as i’m sure there is useful information to be exchanged by people who are willing to share without putting each other down. Someone point me to the real forum please.
maznaz
The real forum
Try this one Marek!
http://www.vingtsun.com.hk/forum/default.asp.
Your’e gonna love it!!! 
Hi Marek:
I can understand part(but not all) of your views.In your profile you dont say much about yourself.I gather that you are new to the list and probably fairly new to wing chun. I am not sure who you mean by senior members.How would you know “seniority”? Actually incivilities are fairly randomly distributed.
One can learn to ignore the junk and pay attention to the better posts. This list is actually a fairly decent one when compared to many of the others. There is fairly light handed moderation and no built in agenda.
Internet communication with nuances missing +
anonymity + immaturity can create strange mixes…
but it is relative. BTW where are you learning wing chun and from whom? Regards…yuanfen(details in profile))
I agree
Well put yuenfan.
Maybe I was a little harsh with my original post, I just wanted to see how people would react to an attack on their forum. I have only been browsing this forum for about a month but that has given me an impression of who is senior (in wing chun terms) and the number of posts gives me the same information in terms of this forum. I am a ne wwing chun student as it says in my profile and have only trained since July. My enthusiasm is greater than my knowledge however and information gathering is my passion (despite my primary hobby which is furthering personal communication privacy). This forum is the busiest i have come accross but seems to be riddled witht eh sort of sniping and counter sniping i’m used to in encryption forums and other intensely geeky forums I train in north wales under a student of master kwok and billy who instruct in manchester i believe. My sifu is a practical person who has achieved black belts in judo, karate (shukokai) and a few other disciplines i forget at the moment as well as being a head doorman (bouncer) for a local security firm. Hence some of my insights and theories might not be based entirely on wing chun despite his insistance that “it is the only fighting style that works”. Thanks for the responses, I will endeavour to look harder for the diamonds in the coal
reagrds,
maznaz