just a small question i think ryu could help here , i recently read his post on paul vunak and i was just wondering what is the straight blast, i had heard of this befpre in jkd and i assumed it was like a northern style (kung fu) straight punch that comes traight out hyperextends the shoulder/chest and is friggin powerful.
However after some net searching i find that its actuall what we call a wing chun straight punch or noy moon chie.
This is documented in jkd as powerful this and that etc etc and great after you hit the guy to continue hitting him with it.
Ok i always thought that jkd is 80% bad wing chun techniques with a lot of picknmix thrown in for good flavour but this straight blast thing is a joke right???
The roll punch or a single punch from the centreline is the single weakest punch possible , ive learnt too many different punches in my life to actually ever need.
and out of all of them the roll punch is so feeble unless its used after a good setup its useless let alone opening someone up and blasting them. its terrible its the equivalent of a boxer saying "I open my opponents up and then step in fast with my powerful JAB.
Ive heard all this stuff about after opening the opponent and doing a straight blast the opponent looks like a flying crane a funky chicken that has been hit.!!!
please tell me i have misunderstood this. !!
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“The roll punch or a single punch from the centreline is the single weakest punch possible , ive learnt too many different punches in my life to actually ever need.”
All wing chun punches are in the centre line (usually, don’t get arsey), do you think all the wing chun punches are weak? Are you sure?
All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.
hey sharky its not that wing chun punches are weak i mean ive seen a 240 pound guy pull a wing chun punch that packs a wallop , but in comparison to a boxers cross or a karateka’s straight punch or pretty much anything from the hung gar repetoire or hsing yi , the wing chun punch was never in my eyes designed for power , it just doesnt have the rest of the body dynamics behind it.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
Wong you’re way off. You must not be throwing them properly because the punch is hella powerful because of how extremely direct it is. Especially when properly targeted.
Similar story with the jab. With gloves it’s weak, without them it’ll open someone up or break a nose in a second.
The Wing Chun straight punch doesnt have COMPLETE body works - if you are doing the slt.
Why would you stand facing your opponent as if in slt or chi sao?
Does that make defensive sense?
Does that make any sort of sense concerning mobility?
You dont stand and fight someone in the slt stance.
Wing Chun maxim: the centerline lies on the shoulder when the body is turned(< !>).
PV’s Straight Blast is the WC Chain punch, not WC punch. You straight punch and step aggressively into your opponent with each punch. I like the flow - straight blast, head butt, elbow, knee. Very nice.
ok i would bet anyone of you that takeing anyone of the current wing chun practitioners straight punches and comparing them to punches from a boxer the power would be 1/4 of the boxers.
root or no root.
or compare it to one of a hsing yi practitioner.
Internal vs internal or external vs external.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
the way i see it analysing the body mechanics of it the wing chun punch always uses 1/4 of the movement from the different muscle groups thus generates 1/4 of the power.
also why it faster than the other strikes.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
btw nuttnhunny i hope that fu(k you dumbshit wasnt directed at me , because i could whip you like a 5 year old you have trained for 4 years and talk about root and you mention youre a teacher , jesus what sort of system are you a teacher in ?? Even ben gash wouldnt grade you in his wan king fist system.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
It isn’t the most powerful punch around but with proper mechanics it’s powerful enough for what it is. personally I think it’s the perfect punch. Dmaging power and insane speed to boot. I have a hard time bringing myself to use a cross in a fight. Opens ya up to too many counter techniques. But it is powerful.
SLT stance is the pigeon toed stance adopted by Whing Chunners when performing the SLT (First form)
When performing the SLT, the waist and lower body do not move. In a real fight, or even a sparring match, or anything that requires moving more then your arms will require your waist and lower body.
This includes punching.
The entire body is involved when ‘executing’ a whing chun straight punch/chain punches - not jsut 1/4 of whatever muscles you were counting.
ok rite yen hoi i get what you mean , goat stance .
No man i know what you mean im just saying compare the dynamics of executing the wing chun roll punch the punches after the 2nd one dont involve using the waist or anytihng other than the chest muscle after the 2nd one all you do is step forward. Compared to say the water element swinging strikes of hung gar where you use the whole body continuously and its fast as hell.
Btw sharky i agree the cross is mother natures punch when i was 8 its the first punch i threw at someone …
lol
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
nah man I’m not joking. I do them, but I have a hard tiome bringing myself to do them if that makes sense. If they happen they happen, but I don’t like to start my offense that way. It’s totally unneccesary anyway(for me). I mean I understand how much you need them in ring sports since you have giant gloves covering up your weapons. But in bare knuckle fighting straight line punching works just fine.
Maybe it is one of the more “natural” techs, but i’ve never been in a fight without knowing martial arts(started at 6) so i’ve always been just as comfortable not throwing crosses, haymakers and what have you. It’s just a comfort zone thing.
I have to go with Sharky on this one - the cross is a great punch. Obviously, I would not open with one but it is devastating in its effectiveness. Fast and powerful.
I would tend to open them up with straight punches (jabs etc) then go in with the hooks and crosses.
