i just saw it on vcd with no english subs. so it was fun just making up my own dialogue. the fight s were awesome the best i’ve seen in years. i never really like that jacky wu jing guy but this movie made me change my mind about him. donnie and sammo were awesome in this film. sammo makes a great bad guy. he just has that don’t **** with me look you want in all your villians. there were some bad points but i’m not gonna get into it, but i due see some improvement from the director. lets see how he does with dragon tiger gate. which i heard was gonna look like sin city.
Saw this at BB today under the name Kill zone. $17.99:eek:
After reading how great the fights in this movie are again though, I will have to fork over the money.
That movie was the SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
If I would have known it was a dark hong kong movie I would have gotten my copy way before now. That was freaking sweet. I loved the grappling too.
The special features from Dragon Dynasty makes this one of the best DVD’s ever. 15 minute interview with Sammo, 40 minutes with Donnie, 23 with Jacky Wu…
2 behind the scenes filming the 2 major action sequences. There is also a commentary track for these 2 making of’s, FROM DONNIE YEN!!! So not only do you get a 93 minutes commentary with Bey Logan, you get a 58 minute commentary form and Bey Logan and Donnie.
I found it amazing that Donnie cut out a ton of action. You can tell he has grown up and is learning how to make real movies when he takes out his patented triple kick. Also when Donnie put the choke hold on Sammo and he started giving him elbows, they cut out a coulpe of knees that Sammo came in with too. Oh well, I can’t get everythign I want.
You think SPL was good wait until you see Long Hu Men. But, yeah, my 3 favorite martial arts movies of the last year were:
SPL (Donnie & Sammo)
Dragon Squad (Sammo)
Long Hu Men (Donnie)
Don’t get me wrong, I loved Fearless, but it was more a drama that happened to be about a martial artist than it was a martial arts movie. You could see Fearless as being the anti-Tom Yum Goon.
I got my copy of SPL yesterday and watched it. Definitely the best HK movie in years, IMO, but it wasn’t quite as good as I had expected. My favorite parts were those that showed Wu Jing in them, surprisingly. I liked him in The Tai Chi Master, but he played a nasty villain in SPL. His “babyface” looks made his character seem more menacing.
i haven’t scene the killzone version but now i wanna pick it up, might rent it from netflix. as for dragon squad that **** was garbage to the maximum of garbage, and dragon tiger gate was pretty good but corny as hell!!!
[QUOTE=doug maverick;707029]i haven’t scene the killzone version but now i wanna pick it up, might rent it from netflix. as for dragon squad that **** was garbage to the maximum of garbage, and dragon tiger gate was pretty good but corny as hell!!![/QUOTE]
Kill zone version is defintely diffrerent than the chinese version. I heard Dragon Squad was awesome, so why didn’t you like it? And I will check out Dragon Gate when I can but it did look pretty gay.
Dragon Tiger Gate is a typical Gong Fu comic book adapted into a movie. It’s nearly brainless and it has a plot that makes you go “Shenme”?
Dragon Squad follows the typical hong kong cop movie format. It’s bloody and full of gun battles… however the fights between Sammo and the main villain (particularly the machettie fight) are really nice.
you mean besides the fact that it reminded me of the power rangers? well sammo was good ofcourse, but i hated how everyone had to have those stupid ass intro flashbacks when they did some kinda of action. if danny lee(the director) did that once then fine but he kept on doing it, and it made me wanna fly to hong kong run up to him and kick him right in the fukkin face. that one thing alone made what could’ve been a cool movie into garbage!
You know people were shocked when I said I didn’t like Ong Bakh despite the fact that it:
A) Had a useless soundtrack.
B) Was amateurishly shot… underlit fight scenes and low grade film stock are a bad combination.
C) Had a lead actor completely incapable of acting.
D) Had some decent fight corography but some really poorly shot moments… like when Jaa flicked his toe lightly against someone who would then go spinning to the ground.
E) Had that awful, useless, poorly shot, over blown, overly-long, pointless, worst-music-ever-made, taxi chace scene.
You say Dragon Squad sucks just because of the intro flashbacks?
Ong Bak brought a whole new kind of style with it. Tony Jaa is the main reason that all of this stuff works. It is an explosive type of action that you just don’t like. I thought Ong Bak was great and that the Protector was one of the greatest action films ever. I will have to check out Dragon Squad sometime to see what the contreversy is about.
Watched “Killzone” and that was the most depressing movie I think I’ve ever seen. Almost every character had “father” issues…and I suppose those particular elements just struck home. EVERY…SINGLE…TIME.
Every character either was a father (and tragic) or had estranged/dead fathers that were more tragic than usual in that situation. I went to bed depressed out of my mind.
Fight scenes were good…and probably the only thing I’ll ever watch of the movie again. Did I mention how depressing it was? Especially liked the baton/small sword fight…and the grappling was pretty cool.
Sammo was really amazing with his portrayal in this film, he didn’t have to speak to convey a lot with his expressions.
Wish I’d payed more attention to whoever said this was a “dark Hong Kong movie”…
Yeah, I probably said on here it was really dark. I am expecting something like ‘In the Line of Duty’, but it was a hell fo a lot more than that. I have only seen about 10 Wilson Yip movies and this is his first one that I REALLY liked. For another superb dark Hong Kong action movie check out ‘The Longest Nite’.
I think one of the things that makes SPL even more depressing is what makes a lot of the Hong Kong films in recent years seem depressing, even when they aren’t meant to be; that is, the movies seem “empty” of people, compared to movies made up until the early-to-mid-nineties. Hong Kong seems “depopulated”, just like in Jackie Chan’s “Gorgeous.” In SPL, the only extras in the movie are the groups of young street thugs under Sammo’s (Wong Po’s) control. Otherwise, HK could be a ghost town, like the original Dawn of the Dead.
ground fighting and grappling have been apart of chinese kung fu forever i don’t why people think it’s not there its there, you just have to get a good teacher who knows the whole system and not only the basics. even and internal style like xing yi has ground fighting in it(not that it’s needed one tsuan chuan to the chest cavity and it throws all that bull**** 90% of all fights end up on the ground theory right out the window, btw i’ve been in plenty of fights and only maybe two ended with both guys wrestling on the floor) anyway just needed to state that, cause alot of martial artist even guys who have been training for twenty years always say kung fu has no ground techinques and i say to them where do you think all the other style get their ground fighting from?
