Here’s another article for you. The end there is a brief piece on Deflect, Parry, Punch in Taijiquan. Enjoy.
left and right
[QUOTE=RandyBrown;947797]Here’s another article for you. The end there is a brief piece on Deflect, Parry, Punch in Taijiquan. Enjoy.
Southpaw: An In-Depth Look[/QUOTE]
Thanks Randy; another article well done!
We have deflect - intercept - punch to the right; but I’m not far enough along to have the left one yet. I guess I know it’s coming now. I just bought the 108 DVD today, maybe I’ll just fast forward a bit…
On those I have done left-and-rights on, the left step is always more difficult, now I know why…
from the article:
“There is a long history of ancient cultures including the Greeks, Romans, and Chinese that prejudice left-handed use. It is seen as sinister, wicked, evil, etc. and many of the words for such are derived from the word left in these languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-handedness). In Chinese culture the major philosophies and religions believe in the universe spinning from left to right and things must always start on the left and move toward the right to remain in harmony. This expresses itself is in many of the Kung Fu forms that we see and is heavily documented in Tai Chi.”
the taiji form moves from right to left…
Perhaps, but it begins Left to Right. Wuji posture, shift weight to right leg, step with left. Play with it, you’ll see.
Thanks Skip. Appreciate the support.
[QUOTE=RandyBrown;948088]but it begins Left to Right. Wuji posture, shift weight to right leg, step with left.[/QUOTE]
not really - bearing in mind that the Yang opening is in a sense incomplete, as YLC deleted certain aspects of the Chen form opening, such as the initial circling from left to right before the first weight shift and step, and the Arhat Pounding / Grinding the Mortar as well (which is an important “activator” from an alchemical perspective); in general, the initial opening part is really more of a moving forwards from the origin point (North to South), establishing Central Equilibrium (YLC “condensed” this, emphasizing the initial “wuji” up / down as a means of achieving what the Chen form does as it moves into Arhat Pounding); furthermore, the movement to the right (Too Lazy to Bind Robe) faces right, but does not travel in that direction: it is really more of a meridian based “gathering” up of energies that are then manifested to the left via Transforming Elixir / Single Whip;
as such, from a macro-structure perspective, the general direction is from right to left; specifically, this is, in the Yang form, achieved via linear forward movement (e.g. - Transforming Elixir / Single Whip, Brush Knee, Needling Sea Bottom, Opening Three Gates of the Back, Bear Walk / Cloud Hands, Snake Creeps Down, Seven Stars); conversely, the majority movements back to the right are generally non-linear, but rather take the form of things such as diagonal moves (Leopard & Tiger Return Towards Mountain; Subduing Tiger; Bend Bow to Shoot Tiger) cross-stepping patterns (Wild Horse Parts Mane), backwards motion (Monkey Retreats, Riding Tiger), aerial (jumping into Planting Punch), 360 circular (Jade Maiden), “dragging mud” stepping (the last sequence of Too Lazy To Bind Up the Robe), all of which makes sense from a Taoist alchemical perspective.
right to left
You’re welcome Randy!
There is no doubt we step out with the left leg.
Still, you could also view that as a general overall movement to the left from the right until you get to tiger. Depends on the perspective you’re speaking from I guess… two sides of the same coin maybe…
taoist perspective
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;948100]not really - bearing in mind that the Yang opening is in a sense incomplete, as YLC deleted certain aspects of the Chen form opening, such as the initial circling from left to right before the first weight shift and step, and the Arhat Pounding / Grinding the Mortar as well (which is an important “activator” from an alchemical perspective); in general, the initial opening part is really more of a moving forwards from the origin point (North to South), establishing Central Equilibrium (YLC “condensed” this, emphasizing the initial “wuji” up / down as a means of achieving what the Chen form does as it moves into Arhat Pounding); furthermore, the movement to the right (Too Lazy to Bind Robe) faces right, but does not travel in that direction: it is really more of a meridian based “gathering” up of energies that are then manifested to the left via Transforming Elixir / Single Whip; snip…
…all of which makes sense from a Taoist alchemical perspective.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for explaining this taai…
The developer of our style is known to have collaborated a bit with YLC in the beginning, even tho YLC is not in our lineage. So while I can’t speak for Yang style, I have noticed a considerable diffference between our opening and Chen style, we just step - with the left foot - directly into lazy man. So this would explain how the condensed opening of YLC could influence the development of our opening…
Yesterday - at the Legends in Dallas - I watched a visiting lady Master from the Chen village demo the Chen style on-stage.. while very soft, it was also very powerful! Sooo, I noticed again the initial circling the Chen starts with, and noticed a number of other little circling movements throughout the form.
I think maybe it is your PT background that notices and brings out the activator aspect, interesting…
[QUOTE=Skip J.;948112]TThe developer of our style is known to have collaborated a bit with YLC in the beginning, even tho YLC is not in our lineage. [/QUOTE]
just curious, who was that, what was the occasion he had to meet w/Yang and where / when? what is the lineage you practice known as?
do you guys have any of the low to the ground work aside from Snake Creeps Down? do you guys do any of the jump kicks or forward jumping moves?
[QUOTE=Skip J.;948112]TI think maybe it is your PT background that notices and brings out the activator aspect, interesting…[/QUOTE]
nope
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;948137]just curious, who was that, what was the occasion he had to meet w/Yang and where / when? what is the lineage you practice known as?
do you guys have any of the low to the ground work aside from Snake Creeps Down? do you guys do any of the jump kicks or forward jumping moves?
nope[/QUOTE]
Hey taai;
Our originator was Wu Yu Xaing whose style was originally known then as Wu Style or Wuu style. But the other Wu style was developed separately a little later - no connection - and Hao Wei Zhang spread the style in China; so we are known as Wu(Hao) style now. Our lineage is that Wu Yu Xaing studied under Chen Chin Ping. The connection with YLC in those early years is a saying I have heard before; but I haven’t got a clue where I heard it now.
No, we are an “economical” style, very few moves up high or low - except snake creeps down… little to no jumping that I can see so far, will check out the 108 dvd to see, but I doubt it. Similar to small frame in our own way.
Sorry about the guess about the PT. A long-term Daoist maybe?
LoKF Chen Master Demo
I saw her also. Wishing I lived in Kansas City where her school is located, at least at the moment. LOL! She was very, very good. And Yes, the circles were there.
circles
[QUOTE=DRAGONSIHING;948329]I saw her also. Wishing I lived in Kansas City where her school is located, at least at the moment. LOL! She was very, very good. And Yes, the circles were there.[/QUOTE]
Hey Dragon; let me know next year if you’re going and we’ll meet up some where!
Hey Randy; sorry for the hijack! I have been known as a hijack master on other - non CMA - forums, I guess it comes natural… keep the articles coming!
To be honest, I am considering adding just a bit more of circling in order to be less linear myself… however, that is considered advanced in our style, and I mite be advised to wait on it a few more years…
Next Year
Will do. Seems as if there were a lot of folks from this forum there and we didn’t know each other. Maybe Gene will have to have a Kung Fu Forum Members meeting and we can all exchange greetings. I know folks were competing and had things they wanted to see, but that would be fun.
next year
absolutely!
see you then…
Sorry Dragon..
[QUOTE=DRAGONSIHING;948385]Will do. Seems as if there were a lot of folks from this forum there and we didn’t know each other. Maybe Gene will have to have a Kung Fu Forum Members meeting and we can all exchange greetings. I know folks were competing and had things they wanted to see, but that would be fun.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, went missing for awhile there.. be glad to meet next year…
Keep in touch!