Shaolin vs Wushu

Well, those are a bit more complex than traditional stuff… I guess if you want to see how it feals to do 540 and 720 tornados and stuff… or an arial (cartwheel with no hands), than yeah. But for tornado kicks, and outside crecent kicks, well, you need to have the hops to do them.:smiley:

I’m good with the wing kick (same as a tornado I think) etc. I’m having a hard time picking up handsprings. Not getting enough rotation. I keep trying anyway.
Doing backflops on a tumbling mat strengthens the kdney at least ??:frowning:
I persist because, if John Belushi could do it then why can’t I. I mean really.

I have to go for a little bit now. But if someone could share some thoughts on successful handspringing/flipping, I’ll have a chance to apply it tomorrow morning, forms class. Back in a couple of hours.
Thanks for the input on the trampoline. If nothing else there’s always girls in bathing suits & french maid outfits.

If nothing else there’s always girls in bathing suits & french maid outfits.

You’ve been watching too much manshow :smiley:

But if someone could share some thoughts on successful handspringing/flipping

I’d go to a gymnastics place for a few classes on how to do that.. they usually have pre-requisits for that too.. like round offs and what not.

Oh, and a tornado kick is a jump spin inside crecent kick.

Yep, same thing as our kick.

As part of our routine on forms day we do a series of falling, tumbling, floor techniques on mats. Working our way from new students everyone does they can do and then eventually works to the harder techniques. With back handsprings being I’d say the hardest. I’m kind of stuck on the front handspring.

About the man show, the trampoline part’s the only part I like. i really got to take off see ya later. B_d

Um, how much time do you guys spend on acrobatics?

Though mordern say wushu it is fancy and pretty lookingit is also deadly. Wu Shu is the fearless form of Shoalin Kung-fu. All one in the same to me. They only bare differences in the eyes of the practitioner’s.

Originally posted by Ironwind
Though mordern say wushu it is fancy and pretty lookingit is also deadly. Wu Shu is the fearless form of Shoalin Kung-fu. All one in the same to me. They only bare differences in the eyes of the practitioner’s.

i dont know man modern wushu is more for performance with less emphasis on power and application. more emphasis on speed and grace. plus did they psot up there is a new shaolin class in wushu?

Originally posted by norther practitioner
Um, how much time do you guys spend on acrobatics?
I don’t spend any time on it, unless you count break-falling routines. The wushu players at our school spend approx. 20 minutes a class doing various tumbles, aerials, buttefly twists, etc…

A cartwheel is as close as I come to doing anything acrobatic.

Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
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i dont know man modern wushu is more for performance with less emphasis on power and application. more emphasis on speed and grace. plus did they psot up there is a new shaolin class in wushu? [/B]
There is a Shaolin wushu routine, now. I think Shi DeShan in Houston (or one of the other TX. monks) is currently teaching it.

Wu Shu is the fearless form of Shoalin Kung-fu.

What?!

On flips and stuff - I’ve been working on that parkour stuff, and that requires some flips and acrobatics to make it really fun. So far I’ve worked on the basics, roundoffs, cartwheels even, just to get comfortable with my body flying through the air. I want to get a thick mat here soon to start working on actual flips from different heights.

Originally posted by norther practitioner
Um, how much time do you guys spend on acrobatics?

The forms I have include some breakfalls, drop kicks, rolls, and one with cartwheels. The Drunken immortal forms have tiger dives, areials, butterfly kicks, and back handsprings.

Do you think it is beneficial to you to be comfortable with movements like this, in fighting? I do to a certain extent… I’m not saying that if I can do a flip, I’m going to try one in combat, I’m just saying that athletisism can help… anywho, as far as shaolin and wushu are concerned, there are a lot of modernized shaolin routines… The shaolin compulsories are a bit different, being that they are compulsory but still more towards the traditional side of it (from what I understand of them).

man i see all these “korean martial artists” video’s all i see are flips and everything else. they throw in some kicks and call themselves martial artists so they dont get called gymnists? since when was martial arts all about jumping in the air and twisting and everything else? yeah it looks cool but thats not martial arts. yeah i know wushu has it but there are a lot more punches and kicks then flips. what am i getting at? if you do more flips and jumps in a form and say throw 3/4 punches you’re a gymnist, go put on your tights and do your springboard thing. IMOP
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Originally posted by Ironwind
Though mordern say wushu it is fancy and pretty lookingit is also deadly. Wu Shu is the fearless form of Shoalin Kung-fu. All one in the same to me. They only bare differences in the eyes of the practitioner’s.

That’s gotta be troll bait.

I’ll say that one physcially gifted enough to do wu shu properly could be an awesome fighter IF they focused on the application, timing, and alive training of technique.

Originally posted by Judge Pen
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That’s gotta be troll bait.

I’ll say that one physcially gifted enough to do wu shu properly could be an awesome fighter IF they focused on the application, timing, and alive training of technique. [/B]
Na, Ironwind is just full of it… Remember, he’s 15, has achieved Sifu-level skills, and has to train in the woods where no one sees him because he made a super-saiyan pact with his super-secret instructor, and he thinks he can KO Mike Tyson. :rolleyes:

I’ll say that one physcially gifted enough to do wu shu properly could be an awesome fighter IF they focused on the application, timing, and alive training of technique.

Exactly what I was going towards.

Wushu is just a socially acceptable physical artform of manlove.

I noticed KFcowboy that you seem particularly fixated on manlove today?

As far as the acrobatics go, my theory on it probably runs along the same lines as your own NP. I feel that while I may not turn any flips in combat, it certainly helps me get a better control and understanding of the way my body moves. Sort of like the deep stance for training thing. I know the outer envelope to which my body can be pushed, so that I can remain comfortably in that if I am fighting.