These guys have got to be kidding if they are calling themselves Orthodox Wing Chun!!!
Also, look at the four students they attribute to Yip Man!?!
Do these guys really expect us to believe that Wing Chun was originally meant to be as they practice it and that the Yip Man, Yuen Kay San and other branches have altered the style beyond recognition?
All I can say is :eek:
Isn’t it funny how all the “Grandmasters” belonged to their “pure” lineage?
Once again the internet has proved to me how shallow my Martial Arts knowledge is. I guess I’m not learning “real” Wing Chun unless I learn their lineage…
WAIT A MINUTE!!!
Wouldn’t that mean that they would suddenly start making more money if everyone believed their clever website? What an amazing coincidence. I can’t wait to go into training tomorrow & tell my instructor that he’s been wasting his time learning corrupted Wing Chun for the last 12 years. I bet the look on his face will be so sad. Good thing I can direct him to the truth. I’ll be a hero.
Bless the Internet!
Nothing bad to say, but what confuses me most is that “shaolin” is a mandarin pronounciation while “Wing Chun” is cantonese.
Shaolinwingchun?
[i] Wouldn’t that mean that they would suddenly start making more money if everyone believed their clever website? What an amazing coincidence. I can’t wait to go into training tomorrow & tell my instructor that he’s been wasting his time learning corrupted Wing Chun for the last 12 years. I bet the look on his face will be so sad. Good thing I can direct him to the truth. I’ll be a hero.
Bless the Internet! [/B]
LOL! If you can covince your Sifu to realise the error of his ways and go back to the real Wing Chun, you could learn this nifty move:
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/en/techniques/tech_unarmedmh4.html
How about flying Chi Gerk?:
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/en/techniques/tech_unarmedmh2.html
Here’s a useful kick for stopping a rampaging bull elephant:
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/en/techniques/tech_unarmedmelko3.html
Originally posted by mun hung
[B]Nothing bad to say, but what confuses me most is that “shaolin” is a mandarin pronounciation while “Wing Chun” is cantonese.
Shaolinwingchun? [/B]
WHAT?!
You mean they’ve resorted to mixing and matching?!?
They also train the “original” wooden dummy;
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/en/techniques/tech_unarmedmelko4.html
Man, you could use that dummy to club seals, or train sacrifice wrestling throws, or kill the elephant meantioned in the thread, or…
LOL! It looks more like the original Dalek prototype from Dr Who. 
Is that the 119th dummy technique he’s demonstrating there?
Do you think he could kick that high without holding on.
Originally posted by Ish
Do you think he could kick that high without holding on.
Yeah, ridiculous, isn’t it. And he doesn’t value his balls too much by the look of it!
They probly include some iron ball training with their superior wing chun
Well, there’s a show of the open mind of a martial artist!
“Do you think he could kick that high without holding on”
Yes he can!!!
http://www.shaolinwingchun.com/fr/techniques/tech_unarmedmelko3.html
Anyone knowing the history of Vietnam in the last century may understand that the martial arts were fragmented, often combined together with more thought to survival than purity of system. Add to that ethnic biases (where ethnic Cantonese in Vietnam often did not teach the same way to the local Vietnamese as they taught to their fellow Cantonese) and the lack of communication with the places of origin for many of these arts, etc. Then, as happened in HK, the US, etc. marketing for MA was often based on claims of “Shaolin” connections, “original true versions”, and what not (even when the system itself was all but unrecognizeable anymore). Then came the Internet and the Global Village, and all the “grandmasters”, “patriarchs”, etc., who had convinced themselves and their students of their place as “the one true source” were stuck. Information became available showing they were one of many instead of “the one”, and sometimes heavily altered instead of “the original”. What is there to do? Admit to the old students that the old stories were just hype? And what were the students who studied so long to do? Admit that it might not be what they were told and believed it was?
For some, skill and skill alone is proof enough. For others, they cling to the fairy tales of old. Sometimes they lose teachers or students, often they find a “next generation” and claim that the old one was never trust worthy enough and the new one will get the even truer more secreter and original system. And the cycle repeats. Others don’t care a hoot about the stories, the ego or face of the “master”, or the marketing and just enjoy learning it.
WRT Vietnamese WCK in particular. Some of it is derived from Yuen Kay-San’s elder brother, Yuen Chai-Wan (Nguyen Te-Cong) and his teachings in Foshan and to his ethnic Cantonese students in Vietnam looks/sounds pretty much like Foshan WCK. His ethnic Vietnamese students vary more widely, often incorporating Five Animals, lots of Qigong, Gim/Sword, and other weapons. Some also comes from Chan Wah-Shun’s student Lui Yiu-Chai (Luong Vu-Te), and also resembles in part Foshan WCK, though I believe some have mixed it with other things as well.
Rgds,
RR
Do these guys really expect us to believe that Wing Chun was originally meant to be as they practice it and that the Yip Man, Yuen Kay San and other branches have altered the style beyond recognition?
Actually, this is Vietnam Wing Chun and the founder was Yuen Kay Sans brother Yuen Chai Wan (aka: Nguyen Te Cong).
Thank you Kuen! It’s always good to read the fine print!
Gluteus Maximus…
Yep, that’s convinced me. The Elephant stopping kick & the jumping reverse TKD style roundhouse are definately not part of my corrupted lineage.
Boo Hoo:(
Owww, c’mon admit it! You’re just jealous! 
I visited that school once.
I found it was a very different kung fu if we compare to Yip Man’s or other well known lineage of Wing Chun.
I watched a class and I could see some Wing Chun as I know it but kind of “wrapped” in the five animals stuff and things like that. It is not what I would do but I can say that they are good at what they do and they train hard.
They also claims to be doing the only true wing Chun!..Well, It’s their opinion.
Salut Old Jong!
Thanks for the kind words. I’m proud to say that we do train very hard and some of the guys are just excellent. As for who has the REAL Wing Chun, who the hell knows. All I can see is that some people see Wing Chun through one person’s history, and that’s Yip Man. He was really great but there were others.
We do Wing Chun, with Wing Chun principles. The wrapping is a bit different. We use words like Orthodox or Traditional. But orthodox to what? Only to the ways of Shaolin. Traditional? Yes, it is a traditional asian school, following the traditional asian philosophy. We do the things the way our Grand Master was tought. And that’s it! Don’t trip over words. It’s only one of the many branches of the big Wing Chun river has traveled. (How cheesy)
Anyways, cheers to you all… 