Security Tips from David Hackworth

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Being aware in an urban setting is just plain horse sense.

People who go to classes for this information are looking for the information and in many cases feel threatened to begin with.

If you perpetuate an armed fortress society, then that is what you will live in eventually.
A police state where everyone wants to look up your butt everytime you get on a bus is not where i want to live.

Are there sickos in society? yes. Do they know what the defenses against them are. If they are real wackos yes they do and all the lessons in “self security” will not stop them 100% of the time.

Fear, breeds more fear, it is that simple. Perpetuation of the armed fortress mentality breeds suspicion and fear.

There are better ways, it begins with what we teach the children and how we treat the children.
Learning is generational. If peace is instilled in the first it will perpetuate into the next.

Being peaceful does not mean being a sucker. If anyone has taught us that it was buddhist monks who learned to kick ass :wink:

peace

Kung Lek

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tsunami re retired

I was injured in the line of duty, and was retired as an E5. I see many E5’s retiring at Sheppard AFB these days. Sad thing was, I was up for E6, and awaiting entry into OCS at the time
I was injured.

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Being aware in an urban setting is just plain horse sense.

It is, but you’d be amazed at how rare “plain horse sense” really is. Awareness is a learned skill, and some of us have developed it to a higher degree than others - often to the point where we take it for granted.

People who go to classes for this information are looking for the information and in many cases feel threatened to begin with.

You’d go looking for this type of information as well if you happened to be a member of a demographic that experienced the highest numbers of violent assault in your society (1 in 4 women will experience some form of sexual assault before the age of 24).

The reason they sign up for the class is because they plain have never been taught what you and I consider “common sense”, or have learned it the hard way (by being assaulted), and are looking for answers.

Have you ever been stalked? That is not a common worry for men, yet in a class of 30 women each semester, every time I ask how many of them have been stalked - MORE THAN HALF of them raise their hands.

Additionally, out of a group of 30 women every semester, fully 1 in 5 of them have experienced some form of sexual assault.

These girls feel threatened for a reason.

Do they know what the defenses against them are. If they are real wackos yes they do and all the lessons in “self security” will not stop them 100% of the time.

Yes, there is absolutely no such thing as 100% security, but there IS such a thing as minimizing risk. Also, if you understand the psychology of assault/victimization, those who HAVE taken measures to both minimize their risks of assault and to protect themselves should an assault happen (both physically and psychologically) recover from assault three to four times faster than those who have not prepared themselves.

If you perpetuate an armed fortress society, then that is what you will live in eventually.

There is a huge difference between an armed, free society and a police state.

Fear, breeds more fear, it is that simple. Perpetuation of the armed fortress mentality breeds suspicion and fear.

IMO, their is also a huge difference between unwarranted paranoia and a cold, hard look at reality.

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I would never wish anyone to enter that dehumanizing institution. I for one have much more respect for the diplomats who work in our embassies and work towards peace, rather than a mindless peon on the frontlines.

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And as Watchman knows, as a man it’s our job to protect our families. Therefore it’s important that we know how to safe guard them even if we’re not the immediate target.

Living in the yellow is better than being a victim in the green.

“Americans don’t have the courage to come here,” Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban who right about now is getting jiggy with his first of 70 virgins.

“Are you guys ready? Let’s roll.” Last words of Todd Beamer heard over his mobile line right before rushing a hijacker.

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Rogue is correct.

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Celestial

If you would be talking of peace, you need to have the firepower to back it up.

Not everybody is cut out for the military way of life, but all should serve in their own way, and add to the society in which they live, to perpetuate its goals and stimulate its growth.

The weapons of war, and the men who wield those weapons, make a world of difference when the
going gets tough.

peons? Audie Murphy was a young man when he earned the Congressional Medal of Honor, Sgt Alvin
York was a conscientious objector for a while.

Both prior examples were men of low birth, and poor circumstances, but they rose to the occaision
when the time called for action, and they stand out as examples of bravery by which all others can be compared to.

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Watchman, your points are valid. And what you offer has value.

I agree, there are major problems with society. I do think there is a major problem with an armed populace also. There are so many piles of stats that indicate what the problems are, it’s not worth going into without getting on the tired dog topic of gun control and all that.

What we inundate ourselves with as “entertainment” is a problem, we’re pratically still freaking living in the roman empire!

The amount of psychopaths walking free is inversely proportional to the amount of apathetic people out there.

When you say “cold hard reality”, is this the same cold hard reality that has always existed?

men do get stalked also, statiscally less than women but nevertheless there it is.
Men also get raped and more often than not men commit crimes at a greater rate and they commit felony crimes with guns at a greater rate than women. In the states and elsewhere.

If we look at the lowest common denominators in our societies (mine and yours canada and the usa) we find very similar problems in our societies that have remained essentially unchanged no matter what action is taken.

Only thing is, nobody has really taken a good go at perpetuating a lasting and deeply rooted peace at home or in our dealings with other nations.

It seems it is too difficult a path for most to walk. It is easier to punch a guy in the mouth for whatever reason than it is to see that some things are simply errors or accidents that can be forgiven.

The current state of affairs is an ugly thing that has a lot of people very, very screwed up in their thinking on it and actually has forced many people to take sides.

People are now getting back into a McCarthy state of mind and frankly that disturbs me deeply.

But we can only change ourselves as individuals.

peace

Kung Lek

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To Qimaster

Hey Qimaster, just curious. Who told you all the stuff about citizen/civilian? Are you taught that in the military, or is it a commonly held belief? Have you ever read the book “Starship Troopers” (the movie was based very loosely off it)? It says exactly what you said (Verbatim-I checked) and I wondered if this was a common military dogma (sorry, couldn’t find a better word).
Personally I would not make a good grunt. I hate taking orders off anybody. I don’t trust anyone (except for an elite group of friends who have stood the test of time) with my life, especially those who make a career of it. Compulsory military service is not for me. As I once heard a Shaolin monk (when asked on a documentary) say “Modern warfare has no need of me”. Likewise. All respect to the brave souls who do though.

If you haven’t read “Starship Troopers”, read it. Whoever wrote it shares exactly the same beliefs as you.
Peace :cool:

“Pain is merely weakness leaving the body”

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Security Tips

This is nothing new,
I have been taking these measures as second nature
for years,does that make me paranoid??

Those who wish to be compliant do so at your own risk.

I was neither shocked nor surprised when the Sept.11th attack happened or the bio attacks,
I expected more and expect more to follow.

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Starship Troopers was written by acclaimed science fiction writer Robert Heinlein, and there is discussion over whether he actually believed the almost-fascist ideas put foward in the book. Written in the 60s, Heinlein was career military, who was invalided out with TB, and it seems likely that he did, these were his personal views in novel form.

The idea of compulsory military service for citizenship is not new, the Roman empire at its height couldnt have existed without it, as it was a relatively small country which had taken over huge swathes of territory, and was spread very thinly. However, they insisted on extended periods of service, in some areas, a minimum of 15 to 25 years!

The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison,
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!

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A strong, and effective military, must be supported by a nation of civilians. Civilians pay taxes that fund the military, staff industry and build military equipment, provide logistical and technichal support, research and development, and a host of other services, to the armed services. A strong Military is vital, but it is nothing without a strong nation of civilian, citizens to support it.

The position that citizens should only be allowed from a pool of servicemen and women, and public servants (which I’ve done my time as a Peace Officer), smacks of facism. I serve my country, by protecting it from itself. I’m no better, nor more deserving of citizenry, than a teacher, accoutant, garbage collector, or the guy taking my order at McDonald’s. They all work. They all pay taxes, and they all have the same rights as I do…and thank God I live in a country where that is the truth.

Peace…unless otherwise required.

C. Martin
“Pain is Neccessary!”

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None of that seemed terribly paranoid to me at all. I must admit that I’m a few steps, at least, beyond that. Much to my surprise, my wife is even beyond me.

JWT

If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV

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C. Martin-RTFO!!!

qimaster- I must say that while I admire those who chose to serve in our military, I hold them in no higher regard than I do my wife who is a pacifist and teaches in the public school system. Military service doesn’t make you a citizen, it makes you a soldier.
I’d argue that Ali’s decision to stand before Congress as a conscientious objector qualifies as a patriotic act.
I would also argue that at times, particularly as we watch the 4th amendment fall by the wayside, military or police service does not always constitute a patriotic pursuit.

I am glad that people choose a military career. I am glad people routinely lay down their lives to protect mine. I am also glad people routinely stand up and say that war is not necessary. And if you think that a congresswoman facing death threats for voicing her moral stance is less patriotic then joining the military, then reread the Bill of Rights and the philosphical basis for our gov’t–Locke, Montasquieu, etc

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qimaster

What part of Texas do you live in? I have been around Texas quite a bit and know people from about every part of Texas and I have never heard of the required 250 volunteer hours you mentioned. I am currently in the public school systems in Texas (higher-education) and have never heard of such required hours. Just curious about what part of Texas this is. Thanks.

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Pacifism is a luxery provided by a strong military.

“Americans don’t have the courage to come here,” Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban who right about now is getting jiggy with his first of 70 virgins.

“Are you guys ready? Let’s roll.” Last words of Todd Beamer heard over his mobile line right before rushing a hijacker.

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rogue

Read some george orwell. Also, upon reflection of many of the things said in this thread, It is apparent that Nationalism and Patriotism are not being defined clearly. There are differences.

-“the picture of the future is a boot stamping a human face, forever”- Orwell

peace

Kung Lek

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Rogue is correct.

"It's not really NHB because they won't let me bring a platoon of Navy SEAL's with Blackhawk fire support into the ring!"
-Watchman
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BTW I am tired of hearing about the following:

  1. Anthrax
  2. Civilian casualties
"It's not really NHB because they won't let me bring a platoon of Navy SEAL's with Blackhawk fire support into the ring!"
-Watchman
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Rogue & JiuJitsuJedi

Really? Ask Mahatma Ghandi about that. He found it to neither be a luxury nor backed by a strong military. (Although I should be more precise and use the term non-aggression)