# ???'s for my buk sing family **URL:** \ **Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\ **Created:** [March 5, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035 "2007-03-05T15:42:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Satori\_Science](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Satori\_Science](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Satori_Science)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035/21 "2007-03-17T05:08:53Z")
long forms My Sihing Russel, alwyas talks about Sup Jee Kuen as the “encylopedia” form. Its like the Bak Hsing man’s refrence guide for all the techniques in the style. Almost everything we do is in that form. Then the Jeen Kuen forms teach the student how to move, fight and employ all those movements from Sup Jee. Sifu always says, past a certain level (bearing in mind their are always corrections to make) the main Bak Hsing practice is to build up gung on the moevements we already know. Think About Tam Sam, everyone knew he liked to use Chop Choi. When they fought him they new exactly what he would use and he defeated them anyway. That was because he had built up so much gung on that technique that it was unstoppable. Those long forms are to build up the endurance and physical stamina. But in our lineage they are actually not taught right away. We teach the foundation first, then the Jeen Kuen fighting sets and then the long forms. ---
**Author:** ![TenTigers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/tentigers/32/74_2.png) [@TenTigers](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/TenTigers)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035/22 "2007-03-17T06:22:05Z")
“Those long forms are to build up the endurance and physical stamina.” I understand that, and it has been explained to me that way as well. I just wondered why, if you want stamina, why don’t you simply do it…again? The dictionary makes more sense. Why learn more smaller sets. Just have one set that contains it all. This thought came about when practicing with my Hung Kuen Sifu, whose only English consists of him saying,“Good!..Again!”:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Satori\_Science](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Satori\_Science](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Satori_Science)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035/23 "2007-03-17T12:51:21Z")
just do it again I guess the awnser to your question ten tigers is that we do practice them more than once. Sifu has us practice sup jee kuen up to 10 times a day, in a row. After that, believe me you see improvement in your stamina. We actually have a sui sup jee and a di sup jee but even the small frame is still twice as long as any of our short forms. ---
**Author:** ![Yen-Wang-Yeh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b38774/32.png) [@Yen-Wang-Yeh](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Yen-Wang-Yeh)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035/24 "2007-03-22T23:25:36Z")
Sup Jee Kuen After viewing the video, this is Sup Jee Ch’uan of Bak Hsing Choy Lee Fut. As has been said: “..Sup Jee Kuen as the “encylopedia” form. Its like the Bak Hsing man’s refrence guide for all the techniques in the style. Almost everything we do is in that form. Then the Jeen Kuen forms teach the student how to move, fight and employ all those movements from Sup Jee.” It is a very long pattern and indeed is the encyclopedia of all Bak Hsing movements, and I thought of Choy Lee Fut in general…perhaps from a Bak Hsing perspective. I imagine depending on one’s lineage, particulars will differ. The core of the pattern on YouTube is very very close to the way in which I had been taught…starting with the crane movements…there are differences, but that is to be expected. Sup Jee Jeen Ch’uan distills specific application on a variety of movements. I always prefered Gai Boon Ch’uan myself…with a few modifications 🆒 Yen-Wang-Yeh [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/s-for-my-buk-sing-family/39035.md?page=1)