# Ross vs. Abel **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [October 7, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306 "2003-10-07T22:13:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/21 "2003-10-08T17:13:52Z")
Abel sure is lucky he spits water jets. ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/22 "2003-10-08T17:14:47Z")
Fu Pow, still trying to make up stuff and pass it off as “something I heard”? You’re near Seattle aren’t you? I actually have family there now, should be there in December. Care to cross hands and you can show me how wonderful you are? ---
**Author:** ![lkfmdc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lkfmdc/32/14_2.png) [@lkfmdc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/lkfmdc)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/23 "2003-10-08T17:17:06Z")
I would clearly prefer to be Mothra, not only is it more intelligent, but it also has two cute Japanese midgets that hang around with it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/24 "2003-10-08T17:18:11Z")
HO Noh! Eets Mofra! Save os Gamara, Save os! ---
**Author:** ![shaolin\_kungfu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@shaolin\_kungfu](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/shaolin_kungfu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/25 "2003-10-08T17:23:29Z")
[\*\*\*\*, looks like i lost to SD](http://thesurrealist.co.uk/monster.cgi?att=shaolin+do&def=shaolin+kungfu&a=S) ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/26 "2003-10-08T17:25:36Z")
“Giant Dragon that Stomps Around a Lot, Tunnels Underground, controls the Weather, drinks Human Blood, and has a single Horn on its Forehead.” With powers like that, none shall defeat me! Especially at badmitton. :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/27 "2003-10-08T17:49:32Z")
If you guys were spinning things for Gray Davis he might still be govenor. Its helpful to actually read the whole thread. Particularly the place were the “war” begins. Lets see. … I say: "I’d like to know how your jow ga teacher would react to you saying in effect that his style is useless. And that goes for many other s here, _cough_ ross _cough_ cough\* " Just a question directed at st00 and in passing to ross since he’s ignored this question many times. NOT a personal attack. He has attacked others for not viewing things his way. He has tried to put an artificial rift betwwen san shou and TCMA. I am just responding to those comments. He says: “Hey A-hole, I mean ABEL, I wonder if you’d have the f-in nerve to say crap to my FACE, probably NOT…” If thats not a heads up I don’t know what is. It IS a personal attack. So there is the challnge NOT made by me, but by him. I say: “Ross, glad you can make it., your face? anytime, remember boy, I don’t punk out to your credentials .” …and so on I respond in agreement to say this in his face and to follow with action. Its amazing how I’ve gone from a “point fighting clown” with no real background to one of the non tree hugging types that fight. Then I get: “Unlike you, I am an ADOPTED DISCIPLE of a famous, world respected sifu. Unlike you, I’m accepted by famous teachers around the world, many are friends of mine. Unlike you, I run a school in one of the major mecca’s of martial arts, not a little obscure place no one has ever heard of.” In one fell swoop for daring to ask a question, my school, my teachers and I get roasted and defiled. So I’m supposed to just bend over and say “yes sir”? BS on that noise. BTW, on the shaloin side alone I can trace to People Like Kenny Chin and Chan kwok Wei. So you aren’t the only one with a famous lineage. Gus Rubio, my teacher, was just in Inside Kung fu last year. I’d say people have heard of us. You guys don’t like it, I don’t care. Its not you and your entire martial family that has been gutted verbally, and for what? I either get a verbal retraction for this now, Or I get to retract some of your teeth later. Choice is yours. If this doesn’t clarify things for all of you then nothing will. Please no “rubbernecking”. This thing is really about nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/28 "2003-10-08T17:52:42Z")
“Its not you and your entire martial family that has been gutted verbally, and for what?” Dude, can you not read my name? :rolleyes: And weve already gone over this before. Its not going to solve anything. Have some flan. And a beer. Maybe a couple of poriquas. mmmm… Poriquas… Poriqua morena, poriqua morena. ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/29 "2003-10-08T17:59:51Z")
Oh just SHUT UP!! Would you please just shut… up… Who the HELL cares. I may not like Shaolin do but I’m going to give it its space and respect its teachers. ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/30 "2003-10-08T18:01:58Z")
> Its not going to solve anything. Sometimes, action is not about solution, but about resolution. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/31 "2003-10-08T18:11:29Z")
“I may not like Shaolin do but I’m going to give it its space and respect its teachers” Cool. 🙂 Its just not going anywhere. Its gotten grossly redundant. “Sometimes, action is not about solution, but about resolution.” Whats arguing here going to resolve? Im with NP’s Paypal idea. Like I said, I got 5 on it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/32 "2003-10-08T18:14:09Z")
Oh its going somewhere. I have the unfortunate affliction of haveing a really good memory. ---
**Author:** ![fa\_jing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee7513/32.png) [@fa\_jing](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/fa_jing)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/33 "2003-10-08T18:14:37Z")
I know how Shaolin-Do likes the puerquitas… ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/34 "2003-10-08T18:18:16Z")
> Whats arguing here going to resolve? > Notice I said action, not arguing…If Abel carries out his plans to conclusion, it will result in a resolution, one way or another. Now, get off his nutz, SD. I’m on Abel’s side here. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/35 "2003-10-08T18:21:37Z")
Im on neither side. Im not on nuts. Those who take sides are “on the nutz”. “I have the unfortunate affliction of haveing a really good memory.” hehehe… I could show you some ways to take care of that. 😉 Actually my long term memory is pretty good still. I think. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/36 "2003-10-08T18:23:38Z")
" I know how Shaolin-Do likes the puerquitas… " lofl. No I do not enjoy hefty fun. But fat chicks give great bj’s I hear. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mutant](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/mutant/32/220_2.png) [@Mutant](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Mutant)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/37 "2003-10-08T18:28:03Z")
_rubber-necking_ bahahaha , this whole thing is so freakin ridiculous 😃 😃 😃 i think shaolin-do is the only one who’s scored any points in this whole mess. 😛 sifu abel, i see why your feathers are ruffled… but if you really want payback, the only logical way to put an end to this (for all of our sake, if not your own) is to come to the new jersey san da tourny next month and fight sifu ross in the ring under san da rules, or no rules whatever… if its really that big a deal to you, then the cost of a plane ticket to nyc would be negligable - shoot, you could probably get your peeps to sponser you if they believe in the ‘cause’ and think you can win. heck, a lot of us pay money to fly around and fight just for the competition, let alone upholding some kind of lineage honor or personality conflict. only a month left, better step up the training. you can do it man, do it for johnny! 😃 sifu ross, you’ve got to be one of the biggest instigators and ball-busters on the entire web. 😃 btw, can any of you guys hook me up with some quality flan? not cut with anything nasty, just pure flan. i’m dyin for a fix… i heard that the kfo chinese mafia is the best source for flan. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fu-Pow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/fu-pow/32/107_2.png) [@Fu-Pow](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Fu-Pow)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/38 "2003-10-08T18:29:38Z")
> Originally posted by lkfmdc > Fu Pow, still trying to make up stuff and pass it off as “something I heard”? You’re near Seattle aren’t you? I actually have family there now, should be there in December. Care to cross hands and you can show me how wonderful you are? Sure. Just PM me or email me when it gets closer to the date. Email is [fu\_pow@hotmail.com](mailto:fu_pow@hotmail.com). You are welcome to come down to my Sifu’s school and cross hands. You know that my Sifu Mak is an honorable traditional Sifu and there won’t be any monkey business. ---
**Author:** ![ZEN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/zen/32/443_2.png) [@ZEN](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ZEN)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/39 "2003-10-08T18:44:39Z")
_sigh_ men… talk about getting redundant. i think i basically read the same thing…lets count…14.5 times i’m assuming most of you were glad to get out of highschool…why are you so eager to go back? bickering is just a waste of time… but then again, so is responding to the bickering… _ **me** _ ---
**Author:** ![Water\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@Water\_Dragon](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Water_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306/40 "2003-10-08T18:50:49Z")
Maybe they can solve this by having a flan eating contest. [Previous page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/ross-vs-abel/23306.md?page=3)