Tae Li,and others
This is not directly qi-gong related but you might want to try military TKD.They train very hard,and not in sport manner,as far as I´ve heard.
Hey Dehz.
I tried the chat out but I guess my timing got me again…
I´ve started some training again,plenty of qi-gong and cool stuff 
Let´s see how long I last.
Later pal.
FC no worries mate talk to ya 1 of these times lol
If u see me up top n KFO i’m usually in the fighterschat room as well… that goes for anyone else who wants to drop by I hope the qigong can make u feel better and clearer
As for tae li: i’m sure she can prob kick my ass well enough already! don’t tell her anything else that can give her MORE of an edge! :eek: LOL 
Now i REALLY need to train my Hard Qigong!
david
Dawoooooddddddddd…ttttttttt.
jeez… i missed both u guys huh? 
FC: what types of Qigong do u do if u don’t mind me asking? I’d be interested to find out…
Tae Li: check your emails please miss
bedtime (midnight),
ttyl
david
heres a link for the UK Shoriji Kempo website if ur interested FC (and others)… i trained with this association for 5 years - very good It’s also CMA related for a change
david
Hello.
Thanks a herd for the replies David,you have been busy
And Tae Li,I did not get much out of it though…but thanks anyway.
Oh yes,now I remember what the kaiso created shorinji for,to help those who survived the war and light some fire into their hearts That´s how I first understood it.BTW,this art is also taught here too.
"FC: what types of Qigong do u do if u don’t mind me asking? I’d be interested to find out… "
I briefly mentioned this earlier,but that was briefly.
I self-study “the eight pieces of brocade” qi-gong,which includes both standing and sitting sets (it´s quite hard to put this into a category,it is quite like “basic” medical or ?scholar? qi-gong.But even with that it has various pieces which include horse-stance and even striking like patterns,it is said to have developed from animal movements but I can´t prove that)
Quite straightforward and down-to-earth,gentle internal gong.
Then there´s White Crane qi-gong which is a part of CMA of shaolin white crane system (WT is actually a big system including various styles) Understanding that it is a martial art requires the gong to be martial all the way.
There are soft and hard sets,still and mostly moving.
Techniques are based on crane movements in a way or another,plenty of flying,flapping and bending.
Soft is more internal and uses nearly no muscle,while hard requires strong external tension to build up muscle and tendon,not to mention sort of qi li and external qi.
Crane gong is harder for it takes at least some breath coordination,abdominal breathing,somewhat more fluid and accurate movements,but is fun.
"If u see me up top n KFO i’m usually in the fighterschat room as well… "
I´ll take that into serious consideration.
I´ll try to start hard conditioning today.
heavy bag and phoenix eye post work,some traditional strength training and stuff.
Best regards,