# Real Kung fu in a standup street fight?
**URL:** https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670
**Category:** Kung Fu Forum
**Created:** [September 21, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670 "2005-09-21T20:53:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/1 "2005-09-21T20:53:55Z")
You decide…
[http://www.compfused.com/directlink/812/](http://www.compfused.com/directlink/812/)
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### Author:  [@PangQuan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/PangQuan)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/2 "2005-09-21T21:01:51Z")
old news.
my answer is no.
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### Author:  [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/3 "2005-09-21T21:19:49Z")
Please use the search.
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### Author:  [@SevenStar](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SevenStar)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/4 "2005-09-21T22:39:14Z")
If the definition of kung fu is ‘hard work’, doesn’t that mean that any effort that anyone gives in a streetfight is kung fu? 😉
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### Author:  [@PangQuan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/PangQuan)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/5 "2005-09-21T22:58:29Z")
> [@SevenStar](#):
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> If the definition of kung fu is ‘hard work’, doesn’t that mean that any effort that anyone gives in a streetfight is kung fu? 😉
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
out of context
- 45 street cred
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### Author:  [@YouKnowWho](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/YouKnowWho)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/6 "2005-09-21T23:27:26Z")
> [@SevenStar](#):
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> If the definition of kung fu is ‘hard work’, doesn’t that mean that any effort that anyone gives in a streetfight is kung fu? 😉
Experience is only part of it. There are other requirement in CMA such as correct skill and ability which cannot be obtained without years of hard work.
Kung Fu training allow you to analysis the combat sitiuation and prepare the solution ahead of time. Never heard about any non-chess player who can match against professional chess player.
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### Author:  [@Invisible-fist](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Invisible-fist)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/7 "2005-09-22T02:08:52Z")
> [@SevenStar](#):
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> If the definition of kung fu is ‘hard work’, doesn’t that mean that any effort that anyone gives in a streetfight is kung fu? 😉
No.
The words mean different things in Chinese and English.
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### Author:  [@SevenStar](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SevenStar)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/8 "2005-09-22T21:28:57Z")
the winking smiley at the end indicates a joke…
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### Author:  [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/9 "2005-09-22T21:46:28Z")
Alas our smiley fu is weak.
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### Author:  [@Anthony](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Anthony)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/10 "2005-09-22T22:31:00Z")
Quote:
Originally Posted by SevenStar
If the definition of kung fu is ‘hard work’, doesn’t that mean that any effort that anyone gives in a streetfight is kung fu?
"No.
The words mean different things in Chinese and English."
Not from the books I’ve read, but okay…what is the difference between the Chinese and English definition or the word “Kung-fu.”
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### Author:  [@PangQuan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/PangQuan)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/11 "2005-09-22T23:01:21Z")
i think hes indicating how the average english speaking population sees kung fu as chinese martial arts.
and how the literal definition in chinese is not that.
but again totally out of context so…
-345 street cred
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### Author:  [@Anthony](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Anthony)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/12 "2005-09-22T23:28:44Z")
I guess we should let HIM answer since HE said it 😉
Anyway, this “street cred” thing you keep saying is kinda lame…like waving a sign that says “i’m a video-game \*\*\*\*”…just my opinion I guess. I’m assuming it’s a video game reference I really don’t know what youre talking about ( I guess my house/wife/job constitutes a real life).
And to answer the original post, if we’re going by the English conception of “kung-fu,” then if you don’t look like a movie when you use it, it’s not real.
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### Author:  [@SevenStar](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SevenStar)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/13 "2005-09-23T18:30:33Z")
> [@SifuAbel](#):
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> Alas our smiley fu is weak.
😛😛
How’s that for smiley fu?
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### Author:  [@PangQuan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/PangQuan)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/14 "2005-09-23T19:35:46Z")
> [@SevenStar](#):
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> 😛😛
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> How’s that for smiley fu?
+83 street cred
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### Author:  [@GunnedDownAtrocity](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GunnedDownAtrocity)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/15 "2005-09-23T21:05:13Z")
i think i’ve seen that guy giving homeless people hand jobs in the park.
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### Author:  [@SimonM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SimonM)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/16 "2005-09-24T15:22:34Z")
Dude! That was like… totally weak!
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### Author:  [@Subitai](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Subitai)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/17 "2005-09-25T14:05:31Z")
I disagree on weakness, I’ve used my kung fu in street fights to knock out a few dudes and it probably looked similar.
This vid has been discussed on a few diff. boards.
Most people saying that it’s not kung fu because of various reasons.
Mostly the:
Stance preparation and it didn’t look like when people do forms or kung fu movies.
Which are both big Peeves of mine. (Movies are fantasy!)
I had said this previously,
Posted: June 24 2005,2:07
As funny as the whole stance preparation is,
For the life of me, I hate when people associate kung fu from tv to real life. What I mean by this is…people thinking that real life use of kung fu (meaning hard work) should look like a movie.
I think the kid did pretty good. It was totally obvious what he was setting up on the homie kid. If he was Tae Kwon Do, it could have been a RidgeHand strike, although impact was the arm.
If it was kung fu…such as Hung Ga or Choy Li Fut, it looked most certainly like a basic inner forearm strike or a Sow Choy that just connected with his arm. This is a basic move.
If you delete everying else in the video and just watch the last 8 seconds. You’ll realize that the Martial arts guy attempted the throw and set up the “SAID MOVE” 2 times before connecting on it on the 3rd time.
\*\*That was the real fight, the last 8 seconds and it wasn’t sloppy at all.
In anycase, it was clear, that he was intending to use this method and he clearly set the kid up for it.
But the whole stance thing was really not needed, too funny.
“O”
P.S.
Why is it that boxers get 12 rounds to set up an opponant and nobody calls them sloppy?
But a Martial arts guy (input ANY style here) can win in a fraction of the time and he looks no good.
It isn’t a fair comparison. I repeat, last 8 seconds.
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### Author:  [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/18 "2005-09-25T16:45:31Z")
Hey “O”,
How ya doin’? 😃
The differnece in what he did and what you would do is simple. Your fight would ONLY contain the last 8 seconds. You wouldn’t be doing all the weird stepping and hyperbole. Apart from the actual hit, which was just “OK”, all the guy’s prior antics made a joke of what he does.
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### Author:  [@Ou\_Ji](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Ou_Ji)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/19 "2005-09-25T17:21:45Z")
While it’s true that he did attempt the same finishing strike twice before in the fight it still kinda looks to me like a lucky shot. Maybe he’s just limited in what he knows.
If it doesn’t work the first 2 times maybe try something else? I think it worked for him because the other guy didn’t know crap about fighting.
BTW, I commented on this fight once before and thought it looked more like Karate but looking at it again he fights with his strong side forward which I don’t think is typical of Karate fighters.
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### Author:  [@Matrix](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Matrix)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/real-kung-fu-in-a-standup-street-fight/33670/20 "2005-09-25T18:08:47Z")
> [@Subitai](#):
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> Why is it that boxers get 12 rounds to set up an opponant and nobody calls them sloppy?
Because boxing is a sport and you can win on points.
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