Qigong as Medicine

This is a long overdue thread that I hope will grow akin to the Tai Chi as Medicine thread.

Some studies show practising qigong helps to fight against cancer
By Channel NewsAsia’s China Correspondent Glenda Chong | Posted: 12 October 2009 1519 hrs

SHANGHAI: The stress of modern living had prompted many around the world to learn qigong. Recent joint studies from China and the United States also show that qigong can help cancer patients live longer.

One community club in Shanghai is practising a form of qigong that has helped members recover from life-threatening illnesses over the past 20 years.

Cancer survivor Qiu Jia Ming, 65, who suffered from pancreatic cancer years ago, said: “I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer when I was 50 years old and the doctor told me I only had three months to live. But I’ve survived 14 years now.”

Another cancer survivor, Yin Xiao Ling, suffered from nasal malignant granulomatosis 22 years ago.

"I’m 57 and have been practising qigong for 22 years. I was diagnosed with nasal malignant granulomatosis, a very rare cancer, and doctors said I only had six months to a year to live at the most.

“So when I was discharged from hospital, I didn’t go home. I went to join the Guolin Qigong Club. Doctors said it was a miracle that I survived beyond a year,” said Yin.

Even the head of the cancer rehabilitation club is convinced of the benefits of qigong against cancer. Yuan Zheng Ping was diagnosed with malignant lymphoma 28 years ago and after studying Guolin qigong in Beijing, he started the Shanghai Cancer Rehabilitation Club in 1989 to teach others like him.

"It’s not only a physical exercise, it is also a psychological practice of breathing using rhythmic exercises, thereby taking in a lot of oxygen. This is beneficial because it increases immunity and help fight the cancer.

“We did a survey in 1993 with 1,500 cancer patients and discovered that after five years of practising Goulin qigong, there was about 85 per cent recovery rate. In 2003, we did another comprehensive study and found that out of 7,000 cancer sufferers, more than 60 per cent of them survived for more than five years,” said Yuan.

With such high success rate, there is now more attention paid to this form of exercise. Initial results from studies conducted by the University of Illinois and Shanghai University of Sports show that practising Cailin qigong can help cancer patients live longer and give them a better quality of life.

Wang Changwei is the researcher behind a new study programme sponsored by the US-based National Cancer Institute. Her first phase of research centred on those who regularly practise qigong and it showed that this group of practitioners have a lower rate of cancer reoccurrence than others.

She said: "From our current study, regardless of quality of life, exercise ability or health conditions, those who practised Guolin qigong are far better off than those who don’t exercise qigong.

“We did an 11-month observation and found that oxygen intake of those who practise Guolin qigong was higher and when they are at rest, the oxygen level is the same. This means that they inhale more oxygen during their practice. Their breathing method of inhaling twice and exhaling once helped to improve their oxygen intake.”

Even doctors who specialise in Western medicine believe there are benefits to practising qigong. But they said there may be other causes that are helping cancer patients recover from their illnesses.

Gao Yong, a doctor at Shanghai East Hospital, said: "Qigong can help patients forget the pain of the disease. Also, the exercise is a team activity. Practitioners encourage and support each other. There is more confidence when they see others recover. I think this is the real benefit of qigong.

“The study has only just started about two or three years ago. A large scale study is needed and should take about three to five years, or even longer, for a more detailed observation of the benefits.”

China sees about 2.2 million cancer cases yearly, with one in five dying from the disease.

Great article!

My only concern is that the layperson reading this will make the assumption that all they have to do is practice qigong and they will get better.
No doubt qigong is excellent adjunct therapy but the article fails to mention the procedures previous to qigong therapy, whether it be excision, chemotherapy, medication in conjunction with additonal therapies.
The degree/stage of cancer also figures prominently in the matter!

For breast cancer awareness month

FYI, Tiger Claw is supporting Breast Cancer Awareness month this October too.

Breast cancer survivor credits holistic practice
By Terry Morris, Staff Writer Updated 6:52 PM Thursday, October 22, 2009

October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. This article is part of our month-long focus on breast cancer. To learn more or find ways to help, go to our Pink Edition Page.

KETTERING — Jan Lively went from being “one of the lucky ones” to someone facing probable death.

“The doctor said there was no cure. I was going to die,” she said.

She “refused to accept that,” a response to crisis she believes would be far more likely now than it was then, based on her mindset.

“I felt that 42 was too young. I also felt I had not lived a truly memorable life. I hadn’t lived my life’s purpose,” she said.

Aware that cancer could recur, she has discovered her purpose and is convinced it helped save her.

It is Qigong (pronounced chee-gung or chee-gong), a holistic exercise that originated thousands of years ago in China. She’s a trained instructor and practices up to three hours a day.

The Kettering resident and former executive director of major gifts in the department of development at the University of Dayton is also a founder of the Noble Circle Project, “a community of women thriving beyond cancer" (www.noblecircle.org).

She was diagnosed with Stage 2 breast cancer in 1998, just 18 months after a previous checkup found nothing.

Treatment including chemotherapy brought a remission that proved to be short-lived. The disease reappeared with Stage 4 virulence in her liver and spine just 18 months later, in January of 2001.

Metastatic cancer is often incurable.

“I thought I had months,” said Lively, 57, who had recently returned from a hiking and climbing expedition in Colorado when she sat down to share her experiences.

The Iowa native “was scared out of my mind” following her original diagnosis. “I couldn’t sleep. I was terrified about the possibility of death, losing a breast, or both,” she said.

She was angry at her nurses and doctors, humiliated by what was being done to her body and she was lonely. She was a divorced parent without a significant other.

“Medicine treats your body. But what about you?” she said.

She had always been active. She was a runner. There was no history of breast cancer in her family. After the cancer returned, in her internal organs, she couldn’t even bend over and touch her toes while sitting. She felt helpless.

A friend who had taken a class passed on a book about qigong, believed to combine the power of the mind with postures and movements of the body to create an internal energy known as Qi. She decided to try it.

Sessions need to be daily, but require only 20 minutes, no financial commitment, specialized clothing or equipment.

“I thought if once was good, twice would be better. I did it twice a day,” Lively said.

Coincidence or not, she quickly started feeling better. Eight weeks after she started, her tumors had shrunk by half. She was eating regularly and her strength was returning. “By the end of April, I was jogging again,” she said.

“I am sure the chemo helped, but it was clear to me the Qigong was working well with the medical treatment. I kept doing it. I wanted to learn more. I wanted to teach others.”

She had tried counseling and said “the therapist was helpful.” She attended a breast cancer support group, but only for two meetings. “I didn’t want to keep talking to other people about cancer.”

She improved her diet, changed positions at UD to reduce stress and even tried internet dating. She left UD in 2002.

Nothing clicked the way qigong did.

Lively is convinced that its power “is truly in the mind. You heal yourself. Qigong is about strengthening the mind and heart through focus of intention. You tell yourself to believe it. Our thoughts, minds, emotions and bodies are all energy systems,” she said.

“I believe in science, too, but I don’t think I would be alive today if I hadn’t found qigong,” she said. “It’s a blueprint for the body.”

She has traveled to China five times to study with the masters. She has taught for seven years and worked with 500 students.

She has met just as many skeptics.

“My own son (who works in the pharmaceutical industry) doesn’t believe it. He says, ‘Show me the science,’ ” Lively said. But her doctor often recommends her classes to other cancer patients.

“When it comes to cancer, fear is the biggest killer,” she said. “The mind and body are very powerful. I try to be a positive thinker. But it’s one thing to put on a happy face and another to truly believe something. I believe this."

better to trust in the wavelengths from the stars and sun rather than those simulated in a hospital building… mind is the path.

[QUOTE=uki;967756]better to trust in the wavelengths from the stars and sun rather than those simulated in a hospital building… mind is the path.[/QUOTE]

No path, no mind, only Is.

or…

[QUOTE=Nexus;967884]No path, no mind, only Is.[/QUOTE]
or… one track mind???

[QUOTE=Skip J.;967902]or… one track mind???[/QUOTE]

Yes, that’s right :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Nexus;967884]No path, no mind, only Is.[/QUOTE]

No mind, no path, no IS!:wink:

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;968190]No mind, no path, no IS!;)[/QUOTE]

Dead as a ROCK or Dry Wood. How can that be the way?

[QUOTE=Nexus;967884]No path, no mind, only Is.[/QUOTE]

Dead water cant have any dragon.

[QUOTE=Skip J.;967902]or… one track mind???[/QUOTE]

mind and thoughts got nothing wrong as soon as one is not unknowingly trap by them.

just listen and not making any differentiation mind action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ahvSxpIh0M&feature=related

what is that “suchness, wonderful existance within the emptiness” which is supporting the listening if that is not your Original face? But you must not search for it for you will not find it if you search for it. It is just there when you are not searching and making differentiation or discrimination mind action. when you search for "it’ , “it” becomes the Mind and like a person cannot see one own face one will not see the Original face while searching. But, Let go and the orginal face is there.

and

Can you always protect this suchness effortlessly with ease under all dynamic condition at every instant ;

so that "it " doesnt become the slave of the thoughts and emotions
or even ignore behind the scene due to falling into attachement of externally scenery or internal thoughts ( Analogy to your own face, it is always there, not aware of it, use it every instant but a slave of the emotion.)?

If you can protect it then you to the minimum you have rest the mind/thoughts and make whole the shen. When Shen is whole, Qi will be adequately filled and Blood will be adequate and lively.

The core of Qigong for health doesnt go beyond the above. From Zen to Dao, it never go beyond the above. The practice of Shen, Qi, Blood, Jing are based on such.

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968205]Dead as a ROCK or Dry Wood. How can that be the way?[/QUOTE]

No one said anything about being dead as a rock or dry wood, that is your fantasy!

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;968254]No one said anything about being dead as a rock or dry wood, that is your fantasy![/QUOTE]

hahaha, ofcorse,

You like to be one dead rock? go a head,

My post is for those who truely cultivate Zen and Dao to not get stuck into this misleading" No mind, no path, no IS!" path which turn one into dry dead wood and rock.

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968205]Dead as a ROCK or Dry Wood. How can that be the way?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968206]Dead water cant have any dragon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968207]mind and thoughts got nothing wrong as soon as one is not unknowingly trap by them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968255]hahaha, ofcorse,

You like to be one dead rock? go a head,

My post is for those who truely cultivate Zen and Dao to not get stuck into this misleading" No mind, no path, no IS!" path which turn one into dry dead wood and rock.[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhnzIO5N30&feature=related

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968208]just listen and not making any differentiation mind action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ahvSxpIh0M&feature=related

what is that “suchness, wonderful existance within the emptiness” which is supporting the listening if that is not your Original face? But you must not search for it for you will not find it if you search for it. It is just there when you are not searching and making differentiation or discrimination mind action. when you search for "it’ , “it” becomes the Mind and like a person cannot see one own face one will not see the Original face while searching. But, Let go and the orginal face is there.

and

Can you always protect this suchness effortlessly with ease under all dynamic condition at every instant ;

so that "it " doesnt become the slave of the thoughts and emotions
or even ignore behind the scene due to falling into attachement of externally scenery or internal thoughts ( Analogy to your own face, it is always there, not aware of it, use it every instant but a slave of the emotion.)?

If you can protect it then you to the minimum you have rest the mind/thoughts and make whole the shen. When Shen is whole, Qi will be adequately filled and Blood will be adequate and lively.

The core of Qigong for health doesnt go beyond the above. From Zen to Dao, it never go beyond the above. The practice of Shen, Qi, Blood, Jing are based on such.[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRKYsao2ciY&NR=1

you are getting sleepy, very sleeeepy

[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;968256]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhnzIO5N30&feature=related[/QUOTE]

What is this mean?

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968255]hahaha, ofcorse,

You like to be one dead rock? go a head,

My post is for those who truely cultivate Zen and Dao to not get stuck into this misleading" No mind, no path, no IS!" path which turn one into dry dead wood and rock.[/QUOTE]

Hi Hendrik,

You have a distinct pattern of imposing your own conceptual fantasies onto others. Rather than misinterpret what others say and seek to criticize what you clearly do not understand…how about explain what you consider to be dead wood and rock Zen?

Once you have done so, use that explanation to recognize your own false conceptualizations and assumptions. Then you can work on them to your own benefit rather than worrying so much about what you incorrectly assume to be the confusion of others.

By the way, I do not think you understand what it means to be dead wood or as a rock, since to be dead as wood and as a rock are one of the most ancient teachings of Zen found within the Tun-huang Ch’an texts:

[I]"Mind is [unconscious] like tree or stone…

…Realize that whatever mind discriminates is merely forms. If you awaken to the fact that mind from the outset has been void-quiescent and know that mind is not itself a form, then mind is unconnected [like dead wood and stone]. Forms are not forms. They are constructed in the manner of an illusion by your own mind. If you merely realize they are not real, then you will attain liberation."[/I]

“IS” and “IS-NOT” are conceptions that are constructions of the mind, just as your incorrect assumptions about what others are talking about are conceptions that are constructions of your own mind!

Following are some further quotes that use wood and stone differently than you presume:

[I]However, if you have no discrimination, do not grasp thought and abandon all views, then the mind, as firm and hard as a piece of wood or stone, will have a chance to realize the Tao." - Huang-Po

The substance of the Absolute is inwardly like wood or stone, in that it is motionless, and outwardly like the void, in that it is without bounds or obstructions…- Huang-po

Return to the state of plain wood.-Lao-Tzu[/I]

Your misunderstanding apparently arises from your misapplication of quotes such as the following one from Huang-po:

“So we must not shut anything out, but try to reach the point where all distinctions are seen to be void, where nothing is seen as desirable or undesirable, existing or not existing. Yet this does not mean that we should make our minds blank, for then we should be no better than blocks of wood or lumps of stone; moreover, if we remained in this state, we should not be able to deal with the circumstances of daily life or be capable of observing the Zen precept” - Huang-po

No one in this conversation mentioned, that we should make our minds blank. “No mind, no path, no IS” is a statement about making distinctions and nothing in it can even remotely be confused to be directing anyone to “shut anything out”! The fact you found such a meaning within this statement is a clear demonstration of your misunderstanding and your ego-centric need to appear wiser than everyone else!

This is why I have characterized your comment as “your own fantasy”, because, once again, you have imposed your own ego into a conversation you do not understand.

You see, you apparently do not recognize that there is a difference between “making no distinctions” and “blanking the mind”!

When one correctly understands the phrase, "No mind, no path, no IS!" he understands, “the point where all distinctions are seen to be void, where nothing is seen as desirable or undesirable, existing or not existing,” this is NOT the same thing as making, “our minds blank”!

If you seek to assist others in understanding and practicing Chan principles, perhaps your time would be better spent correctly understanding and living them first. It would also benefit you to practice understanding and using the principles of English grammar. This will help you keep from embarrassing yourself when you misunderstand the conversation of others and will help you make more meaningful contributions in the future.

:slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Hendrik;968262]What is this mean?[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: