I heard some kungfu and qi kung master could leap over buildings does any one know any qi qong excerises for this
Andre Lashley
Andre Lashley
I heard some kungfu and qi kung master could leap over buildings does any one know any qi qong excerises for this
Andre Lashley
Andre Lashley
In case you didn’t see it on the other side
I have heard stories of some of the early masters training in Iron Jacket or Iron Vest to increase their jumping ability. Some would wear this heavy metal vest for years without taking it off. Not very practical if you work in an office or something.
Basketball players wear ankle weights to increase their jumping ability. Not likely they could leap over tall buildings in a single bound though. ![]()
Count
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Most likely talltales, kind of like Davey Crocket, Pecos Bill, etc. Waaaaay back there’s some KF master with Jordan like jumping ability. Some average guy sees it, tells his budies about it at the local tavern(embelishing a little to make the story more exciting), they inturn tell their friends, who tell their freind, etc. Exagerating a little bit every time.
I have been told there is a process for this. Of course it takes years. The training involves binding your knee joint with a board preventing your knee from bending when you try to jump. Thus you use only the muscles below the knee and the act of raising you arms to jump. Dig a hole in the ground (maybe an inch or two to start) and, with your knees bound, jump in and out. When you can do this well, deepen the hole.
There is no spoon. “The Matrix”
There’s a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. “The Matrix”
walk around it instead
Andre said:
“I heard some kungfu and qi kung master could leap over buildings does any one know any qi qong excerises for this”
Woliveri said:
“I have been told there is a process for this. Of course it takes years. The training involves binding your knee joint with a board preventing your knee from bending when you try to jump. Thus you use only the muscles below the knee and the act of raising you arms to jump. Dig a hole in the ground (maybe an inch or two to start) and, with your knees bound, jump in and out. When you can do this well, deepen the hole.”
I tried this, but after two years the hole was still only about a foot deep, so I decided to just walk around the building instead.
Max
“The force can be envisaged as cone-shaped”. Tsui Seung Tin
achieving true lightness skill
I believe Water Dragon once gave a very helpful link related to this skill. Try the following:
Yes, I’ve heard stories of jumping abilities up to 20’ or 25.’ However, I these stories were only from 2 generations back, or as late as the 1950s or so in China. I haven’t heard of any such masters in recent times.
Lightness Training ?
Good luck buddy.The only reference I’ve seen to Ching Gong is in Sun Lu Tang’s book ,"The Study of Mind Form Boxing ". That is not to say it is or is not included in Xing Yi Chuan , but that SLT learned it from a shaolin monk when he was very young.
qing gong
qing gong is a real skill from shao lin. the methods shown above are what i believe to be low-level. real qing gong is not meant to make your legs stronger, but your body lighter.
i have also read that little snippet about it in sun lu-tang’s book xing yi quan xue. a later bit about it is in a smaller, less-obvious section, where sun states that hou xing (monkey form) will make the body light.
i’m not sure if this is a reference to a training method of qing gong, but it is in wang tsung-yueh’s classic on shi san shi (thirteen postures):
“To make the entire body light and agile suspend the headtop.”
not sure if that one is meant to be taken literally or not. maybe someone can help me with that.
i’ve seen on tv a short chinese guy that could walk along suspended large sheets of paper. he was also an exponent of traditional chinese medicine. pretty neat, though. that was definitely qing gong if i’ve ever seen it. it is real, though, and it does make your body light, so that many of the things done with wires in the movies could have been actually done in real life!
jumping
plasic squirrl hit the nail on the head! to goals of shaolin were to use qi-gong to become very heavy or rooted so that not to be lifted or pushed in combat , the other was the yin/yang type theory of oppostites to become very light to have the ability to move quickly and efforlessly when need be. so the focus is reversing ones polarity to do either so the basis is light ness not how high they jump. my sifu’s sifu has a picture of himself doing a hand stand on one finger.. this is not so much finger strength as it is lightness for your finger could not hold up 150 lbs if thats what you weigh but if you made your body say 60lbs it would be easier yes…
earthdragon - is that the pic of the guy who is standing on 1 finger, but has his feet against a wall for balance?
dear orginex no he is in henan a province in china in the countreyside on some grass, but not to many people have seen the picture for it is 1 of 2 copies the other is in shaolin. have you seen the smae pose? it almost makes you think its a fake but i assure you it is not!
earthdragon - no, i just saw some video where an old master stood on 1 finger (but w/feet against wall) and then also poked a punching bag with a finger, poking a hole thru it so that sand poured out. It may have been some old Shaolin guy…
So this guy in Henan province was shown standing on 1 finger only - no feet against a wall or anything? Wow, can u scan that pic in for us?
I only wish someone had some footage of an old master jumping 25’ up now!!!
pic
If I were fortunate to have it it would be the front page of our web site! it is a 24x14 framed picture in our HQ school in san fransico in my sifu office and i have only seen it but do not own it sorry! but he is outdoors no walls around to answer your question.. thank you 4 your time
Earth Dragon,
Ask your sifu if you can take a photo of the picture for us.
Or, if he won’t let you, I guess Ashida Kim’s astral spies could get a picture of it for us. Hehe.
Iron
As I stated before it is in the office of my sifu in san Fran cal. I now live in buffalo ny some 3,496 miles away sorry!
Gravity is the Root of Lightness
Forget about weight vests and holes. Stand. Breath in, push Qi upwards. Breath out, push downwards. Root, and lighten. They are complimentary. You don’t need to jump twenty feet in the air – you need to have an understanding relationship with the ground. I can’t do much myself, but I can walk over a freshly moped floor and leave no foot prints. Any of us can do it. Try a simple breathing exercise. After all, Qi is breath.
Much love
M
OK grasshopper,
Then you are ready to leave the temple! But first answer a question for me. If “Chi is breath” then how can the chi flow anywhere except the lungs? also, could you explain how root and lighten are complimentary?
Count
Chi means breath in Chinese, but I doubt this is what you’re asking. All things have basis in physicallity. Chi as an energy force can be understood through physical processes. Breath INITIALLY enters the lungs, but is then injected into your blood, and eventually into all your cellular structures. Chi is breath, and breath is the foremost fuel of the entire body. Without food, or water, we can last a relatively HUGE amount of time compared to the very short span of minutes we can go without breath. Breath is everywhere in the body, and you can feel it vibrate the marrow of your bones. Chi is there.
In the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu states that Gravity is the root of lightness. I think that explains perfectly how rooting and lightness are complementary. One can’t exist without the other. The root is yang, the lightness is yin. Why is this confusing?
M
And by the way, count. Your profile puts you way ahead of me in training. I should think you wouldn’t have trouble with these concepts. If there is something completely skewed in my understanding, I would be gratefull for everyone’s reinforced opinions. I haven’t studied nearly as much as most people here, as it pertains to martial arts, but I have studied ancient Chinese thought extensively. I hope for everyone’s honest opinion.
M