# Place These In Order! **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [June 19, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174 "2003-06-19T20:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shuul\_Vis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shuul_vis/32/393_2.png) [@Shuul\_Vis](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shuul_Vis)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/1 "2003-06-19T20:10:55Z")
Put these in order of importance when associated with kung fu. The order you choose should have combat efficiency as the greatest emphasis. Here is the list of words. NOTE: The list below is not in any order of my choosing as i will post what in my opinion is the correct sequence in a few moments. ALSO, after you sequence them, please write a brief statement telling us why you chose the first word on the list to be the most important. I understand they are ALL important, but lets just have some fun shall we? -Power (not strength) -Strength -Speed -Accuracy -Balance -Proper Technique -Diversity of Techniques Known (i.e. cross training, familiarity with other styles, ect.) -Root -Breathing -Fluidity -Focus -Confidence -Timing ---
**Author:** ![chen\_zhen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/chen_zhen/32/168_2.png) [@chen\_zhen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/chen_zhen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/2 "2003-06-19T20:14:20Z")
To be an efficient fighter, all must be trained equally. I can’t put them in order, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Judge\_Pen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/judge_pen/32/409_2.png) [@Judge\_Pen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Judge_Pen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/3 "2003-06-19T20:16:32Z")
Wouldn’t “proper technique” incorporate balance, root, breathing, fluidity, focus, speed, accuracy, and power? Would that not lead to confidence? ---
**Author:** ![Shuul\_Vis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shuul_vis/32/393_2.png) [@Shuul\_Vis](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shuul_Vis)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/4 "2003-06-19T20:16:40Z")
\*\*\*\*it i know that! Thats why i said “I understand they are ALL important, but lets just have some fun shall we?” Lets just try to do it and see what we can learn from it. ---
**Author:** ![Oso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/oso/32/63_2.png) [@Oso](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Oso)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/5 "2003-06-19T20:17:15Z")
I would add ‘timing’ to the list. For me it is one big equation and different facets will carry different weight in different situations. No one facet can be undertrained less than any other. Being deficient in any area could lose the fight against one person but not another. ---
**Author:** ![Judge\_Pen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/judge_pen/32/409_2.png) [@Judge\_Pen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Judge_Pen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/6 "2003-06-19T20:17:42Z")
Ok. I’ll pick proper technique. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shaolin-Do](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/shaolin-do/32/396_2.png) [@Shaolin-Do](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Shaolin-Do)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/7 "2003-06-19T20:20:23Z")
Well, the first three would definately be: A-curracy S-peed S-trength. because that spells A S S. Possibly… F-luidity A-ccuracy R-oot T-technique? Thats the only words I can think of for now… should have thrown out a couple more vowels. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![No\_Know](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/no_know/32/228_2.png) [@No\_Know](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/No_Know)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/8 "2003-06-19T22:36:07Z")
-Breathing -Power (not strength) -Diversity of Techniques Known (i.e. cross training, familiarity with other styles, ect.) -Root -Proper Technique -Accuracy -Fluidity -Timing -Focus -Balance -Speed -Strength -Confidence Relaxation/tension comes from breathing. Balance can come from breathing. Power can come from breathing. Breath determines accuracy (for sharpshooters at least perhaps). I can improve my strength with breathing. Breathing can help one to focus. Breathing can determine root.?. If I don’t breathe the rest Won’t happen.-ish I No\_Know ---
**Author:** ![Merryprankster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/merryprankster/32/102_2.png) [@Merryprankster](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Merryprankster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/9 "2003-06-19T22:42:50Z")
You left out what is to me the most important thing. Conditioning. Gas. I realize that many here think its secondary because streetfights aren’t supposed to last very long, but I have watched performance degrade in 15 seconds. I know that’s an eternity, but it’s also not. And all your ability in the world goes to crap if your conditioning goes. ---
**Author:** ![Christopher\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@Christopher\_M](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Christopher_M)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/10 "2003-06-19T22:45:33Z")
Well, if Mr. Know can do it… If you’re allready fighting: 1. Root, Power, Balance, Fluidity 2. Confidence, Focus, Breathing 3. Accuracy, Timing, Proper Technique, Diverse Technique, Speed, Strength If you’re not allready fighting: 1. Timing 2. Confidence, Focus, Breathing 3. Root, Power, Balance, Fluidity, Accuracy, Proper Technique, Diverse Technique, Speed, Strength ---
**Author:** ![GLW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f14d63/32.png) [@GLW](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GLW)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/11 "2003-06-19T23:07:13Z")
If Confidence equates to Bravery - THAT MUST go first. If someone squares off against me and they show hesitation, fear, indecisiveness - I am NOT going to get over-confident in my movements - but I am going to KNOW I have one big advantage. In their mind, they have already lost…so since they don’t have the bravery/ confidence to support them, all I have to do is HELP them lose. To win, you must be willing to do…and that is the confidence / bravery aspect as well. ---
**Author:** ![GunnedDownAtrocity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/gunneddownatrocity/32/52_2.png) [@GunnedDownAtrocity](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/GunnedDownAtrocity)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/12 "2003-06-19T23:09:04Z")
-Confidence -Root -Focus -Power (not strength) -Diversity of Techniques Known (i.e. cross training, familiarity with other styles, ect.) -Breathing -Timing -Accuracy -Strength -Speed -Balance -Proper Technique -Fluidity its hard to put them in an exact order but i did my best. i feel alrigth about the first set, but the second isn’t much better than random. without confidence all you’re skills mean jack sh it. if you dont think you can do it you wont be able to. i’m a little guy so without root i have no power … speed’s alright but id rather be able to do some damage. with focus your power doubles or better. i believe proper focus will also help with accuracy quite a bit as a side benifit. diversity has been done to death and i feel that breathing benifits all of the above. ---
**Author:** ![ZIM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/zim/32/347_2.png) [@ZIM](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/ZIM)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/13 "2003-06-19T23:17:29Z")
Heart, like in the boxing term… the rest follows, maybe in GDAs order ---
**Author:** ![No\_Know](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/no_know/32/228_2.png) [@No\_Know](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/No_Know)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/14 "2003-06-20T04:11:25Z")
If adding Conditioning… -Breathing -Conditioning -Power (not strength) . . (the rest the same) . ---
**Author:** ![Yung\_Apprentice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/yung_apprentice/32/223_2.png) [@Yung\_Apprentice](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Yung_Apprentice)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/15 "2003-06-20T05:11:31Z")
1. Timing 2. Confidence 3. Accuracy 4. root 5. breathing 6. Focus 7. Power 8. Speed 9.balance 9. strength 10. Fluidity 11. proper tech 12. diversity in tech ---
**Author:** ![Xebsball](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/xebsball/32/90_2.png) [@Xebsball](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Xebsball)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/16 "2003-06-20T05:14:05Z")
All that you touch and all that you see all that you taste, all you feel and all that you love and all that you hate all you distrust, all you save and all that you give and all that you deal and all that you buy, beg, borrow or steal and all you create and all you destroy and all that you do and all that you say and all that you eat and everyone you meet and all that you slight and everyone you fight and all that is now and all that is gone and all that’s to come and everything under the sun is in tune but the sun is eclipsed by the moon ---
**Author:** ![Yung\_Apprentice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/yung_apprentice/32/223_2.png) [@Yung\_Apprentice](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Yung_Apprentice)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/17 "2003-06-20T05:17:36Z")
who was that by? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Serpent](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/serpent/32/62_2.png) [@Serpent](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Serpent)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/18 "2003-06-20T05:28:10Z")
The best band in the world, baby! Pink Floyd. ---
**Author:** ![Yung\_Apprentice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/yung_apprentice/32/223_2.png) [@Yung\_Apprentice](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Yung_Apprentice)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/19 "2003-06-20T05:29:55Z")
Never was much into that type of music D@mn they wrote that??? ---
**Author:** ![Serpent](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/serpent/32/62_2.png) [@Serpent](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Serpent)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174/20 "2003-06-20T05:37:22Z")
Do a search and check out other PF lyrics. Awesome stuff, man. [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/place-these-in-order/21174.md?page=2)