phenix bio

Originally posted by duende
[B]Gangsterfist,

I’m all for differences of opinion. And I could really care less about better this or original that.

The fact remains that Phenix has a talent for posting alot of mis-information. Sorry, but that is not an opinion, that’s a fact. I have an OPINION that he is of a very low character for doing so.

I don’t want to make this more negative then it has to be. Foolinthedeck asked for a character reference. I gave him my honest opinion, based on the factual experiences I’ve witnessed on this forum.

PS No need to be sorry… I know you mean well. [/B]

Odd that your opinion is so out of step with the rest of the board. From what I have seen, none of your accusations are true, which makes me doubt your claims to “an honest opinion.” An honest opinion would be built on facts, not your lineage claims which are unsubstantiated to date.

originally posted by Chronos
Odd that your opinion is so out of step with the rest of the board.
The rest of the board but not phenix’s own kung fu family or white crane elders or are some post missing!

Phenix favoreite Website

http://hk.geocities.com/yongchunwhitecrane/

:smiley: :smiley:

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Hey Guys,

“There are many many WC masters and practictioners from many many different lineages that have a very very low opinion of Phenix.”----------

That is correct. Agree.

“This is because he has made many many outlandish and egocentric claims. It is also because whenever he is confronted by authentic WC masters, authentic Chan masters, or authentic historians, he has a habit of always having to go on vacation.” ---------

That is Correct too. Agree.

Since he is the number one no body who dont know a thing about WCK and Chan and … ect who always love to go to vacation in Hawaii.

Why bother to continous to spend more negative energy on him right?

erase
linage, history,and emotion
these are meaningless and empty topics in the scope of combat and training to be effecient in combat
this is why scholars,librariens,and heads of state , can never be real warriors , they think to highly of themselves and don’t get there finger nails dirty:)
but they are intelectualy skilled and weave wonderful webs to bring greatness upon themselves or there group .

screw the politicians and all the kings of lip sau

what seperates hendrik from this group , well not much most of the time , he has his own aganda but and this is the key
he offers technical knowledge which can be applied here and now freely and openly
for this reason i respect him
i wish more of the lip sau masters would step out of the bamboo curtian and put it out there with out all the mumbo jumbo

as for all the history chan chi crap . doesn’t pertain to actual street fighting so i speed read past that stuff or use it to break out my pillow and go to sleep

so hendrik i for one appriciate what you share and after swimming through the maze of poetry , stories about corpses, and digs at other people , i find sound technical thoughts and idea’s
:smiley:

Originally posted by Ernie

… after swimming through the maze of poetry , …:smiley:

Do you think I will meet Diaz this time I go to Maui for Surfing, opps meditate? :smiley:

I heard she got pixx when her bf cover up Janet… so let see if she is in Maui.

on the way back from the road to hana you might find her in a little resteraunt with a view of the island ,
it’s about half way down and hidden in the hills with a fire place and the best macadamia nut banana pan cakes with coconut syrup :slight_smile:

as soon as i finish paying for my last trip i’m going back perhaps we will see each other one day :smiley:

I like Hendrik his thoughts. Although sometimes difficult to understand.

Can not comment to much on his character.
Difficult for me, I never met him.

It seems most HFY guys do not like him.
Perhaps there is truth in a well known saying… :wink:

Anyway nobody is liked by everybody… Even Jesus, Buddha, Dalai Lam have/had enemies. And Hendrik is not at that level…
yet :wink:

Only positive opinions are allowed here???

Ernie,

Listen, you claim to be a fair level-headed guy, and I’ve had no reason to doubt you until now.

Tell me… What’s fair about choosing to be blind to the countless back-handed attacks of Phenix’s against other WC families???

All politics aside, if someone was out there spreading mis-infomation about Gary Lamb, or writing about your system and distorting the information how would you react???

I’ve said many many times before, as soon as Phenix drops all the attacks, I’ll stop my posts against him.

That’s not lip-service, lip-sau, or whatever you want to call it. That’s the plain simple truth.

I gave my opinion about him. And you gave yours.

I’m not going to criticize you or anyone else for doing so.

duende

i would like to think i am level headed , i’m sorry if i have changed your oppinion .

[All politics aside, if someone was out there spreading mis-infomation about Gary Lamb, or writing about your system and distorting the information how would you react??? ]

well
first if i know and can prove my training is effective for me , then it really wouldn’t matter , people will always find ways to try and step on each other ,
second if it really was a constant problem and gary was being attacked gary would go right to the source and and drop him were he stood , you see it’s just how it is man to man
if the attacks were aimed at me i would try and do the same if my skills and luck was with me that day .
and it still wouldn’t prove much as far as systems go . but the reality comes down to what the claims are about and if it’s fighting skill well that can be tested ,
everything else doesn’t really pertain to me

so to be honest i really don’t ge the whole reason for attack and counter attack

[[ gave my opinion about him. And you gave yours.

I’m not going to criticize you or anyone else for doing so.]]

i understand this is a emotional subject with you and yours , and hendrik does seem to have a agenda as i stated before , but you are criticizing me , when i have not said anything to you to cause this . i have made it a point to try and learn from anyone i can , including your group , and anyone elses i’ll admit back in the day i got caught up in the mud slinging storm , but no more
i’f i wish to seek information on t/s/e i willask you with an open mind and heart , if hendrik helps clarify something in slt for me then i will thank him with a open heart .
ther are no sides for me to take , all i focus on is training concepts and idea’s
and in return i offer my own . to be enjoyed or disgarded

if either of you were ever broke down in l.a. and needed a ride i would be more then happy to help
:confused:

edit[[ i just re read my post to make sure i didn’t in some way offend or take sides , don’t see were you even got hot with me about anything beyond giving hendrik an honest compliment , nothing else new , my oppinions on history and chi and all that stuff has always been the same . in fact i started by saying erase all history and linage and just look at it from a combative filter hmmm don’t get were you got the impression of being disrespected oh well ]]

Ernie,

I wasn’t trying to criticize you. I was just trying to gain some understanding, by making an analogy.

That’s all.

BTW… It’s not an emotional subject. And many other WC Sifu’s would also like for Hendrik to stop his nonsence.

Respected GM Hoffmann last year popped in on this very forum, and specifically asked Hendik to stop discussion Saolin WC and things he knows nothing about.

it began as an innocent question as to Hendrik’s bio. Couldda beena shorter thread…but predictably Canglong and Duende have helped inject new life into the thread and another unncessary page to an anti Hendrik opus. Phoenix- are you paying these people?..

From TS Elliot possibly… “and human voices wake us and we drown!”

Hendrik:

Paul Simon’s song? I can do without.. and Diaz has facial acne in real life.

Off to other threads…

Hey Chronos,

Nice profile… I guess you probably don’t know who your real father is either.

The Waste Land

“April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory out of desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in a forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.”
-T. S. Eliot

Hey Paul H thanks for the Wasteland quote—
mine me thinks is from a shorter poem…Love song of J Alfred prufrock or some other…

let us go then you and I to where the land ends beneath the sky–
let us go through some half deserted streets and muttering retreats.. of one night cheap hotels and sawdust rsetaurants selling oyster shells—

I grow old I grow old…shall I wear the bottom of my trousers rolled…

to go where mermaids sing- I do not think they will sing for me…

human voices wake us and we drown.


Thanks, Joy. Joie de vivre!

Regards,
PH

Joy, Pual,

Good stuffs to learn.

http://www.drstandley.com/chakras_03.shtml

http://www.drstandley.com/chakras_05.shtml

It is all about balance.

THE SECRET DOCTRINE

Hendrik Santo, in the Rise/Sink/Open/Close thread, and in the Phenix Bio thread, (this latter threads’ post giving out some chakra info)…within these two threads a great deal of esoteric knowledge is either given out or hinted at…the bait being how to develop chi energy while doing SLT.

He has opened some doors within these two threads - notwithstanding the foolish and self-serving attempts by some to discredit him…and I will now walk through some of those doors in a very different direction than I have ever gone on this forum…As up until now almost everything I’ve posted has had to do with fighting and/or lineage politics.

But there is fighting and there is FIGHTING…and this will be about a much more important fight than simply physical self-defense.

The fight within each individual soul that pits it’s own Higher nature vs. it’s own lower nature (see the Bhagavad Gita for all the details)…as opposed to pitting one’s own Higher nature vs. the lower nature of someone else (see World War 2, for an example of this…as Hitler and the Nazi movement was the epitomy of both individual and collective Demonic lower selves fighting against all that is HIGH and GOOD within human nature(s)

THE SECRET DOCTRINE was written in 1888 by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (H.P.B.)…the founder of the modern Theosophical movement. The objects of the Theosophical movement are:

  1. To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or color.

  2. The study of ancient and modern religions, philosophies, and sciences, and the demonstration of the importance of such study; and

  3. The investigation of the unexplained laws of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man.

Here are some excerpts from The Secret Doctrine:

"The whole Kosmos is guided, controlled, and animated by an almost endless series of Hierarchies of sentient Beings, each having a mission to perform, and who - whether we give to them one name or another, and call them Dhyan Chohans or Angels - are ‘messengers’ in the sense only that that they are agents of Karmic and Cosmic laws. They vary infinitely in their respective degrees of consciousness and intelligence; and to call them all pure Spirits without any of the earthly alloy ‘which time is wont to prey upon’ is only to indulge in poetical fancy. For each of these Beings either WAS, or perhaps to become, a man, if not in the present, then in a past or a coming cycle (Manvantara). They are PERFECTED, when not INCIPIENT, men.

(Volume 1, page 274-275)…

"In sober truth, as just shown, every ‘Spirit’ so called is either a DISEMBODIED OR A FUTURE MAN. As from the highest Archangel (Dhyan Chohan) down to the last conscious ‘Builder’ (the inferior class of Spiritual Entities), all such are MEN, having lived aeons ago, in other Manvantaras (world periods), on this or other Spheres; so the inferior, semi-intelligent and non-intelligent Elementals - are all FUTURE men. That fact alone - that a Spirit is endowed with intelligence - is a proof to the Occultist that that Being must have been a MAN, and acquired his knowledge and intelligence throughout the human cycle. There is but one indivisible and absolute Omniscience amd Intelligence in the Universe, and this thrills thoughout every atom and infinitetesmal point of the whole infinite Kosmos which has no bounds, and which people call SPACE, considered independently of anything contained in it. But the first differentiation of its REFLECTION in the manifested World is purely Spiritual, and the Beings generated in it are not endowed with a consciousness that has any relation to the one we conceive of. They can have no human consciousness or Intelligence before they have acquired such, personally and individually. This may be a mystery, yet it is a fact, in Esoteric philosophy, and a very apparent one too.

Ibid., Volume 1, page 277…

“The Doctrine teaches that, in order to become a divine, fully conscious god - aye, even the highest - Spiritual primeval INTELLIGENCES must pass through the human stage. And when we say human, this does not apply merely to our terrestrial humanity, but to the mortals that inhabit any world. ie., to those Intelligences that have reached the appropriate equilibrium between matter and spirit, as WE have now, since the middle point of the Fourth Root Race of the Fourth Round was passed. Each entity must have won for itself the right of becoming divine, through self experience. Hegel, the great German thinker, must have known or sensed intuitionally this truth when saying, as he did,that the Unconscious evolved the Universe only ‘in th hope of attaining clear self-consciousness,’ of becoming, in other words, MAN; for this is also the secret meaning of the usual Puranic phrase about Brahma being constantly ‘moved by the desire to create’…The Mind-born Sons, the Rishis, the Builders, etc., werer all men - of whatever forms and shapes - in other worlds and the preceding Manvantaras.
This subject, being so very mystical, is therefore the most difficult to explain in all its details and bearings; since the whole mystery of evolutionary creation is contained in it…every atom in the Universe has the potentiality of self-consciousness in it, and is, like the Monads of Leibnitz, a Universe in itself, and FOR itself. IT IS AN ATOM AND AN ANGEL.”

Ibid., Volume 1, page 106-107…

Now…returning to the part about “each Entity having to win for itself the right of becoming divine, through self experience”…

Recall the famous phrase by Christ, that - “The Kingdom of heaven must be taken by violence”…

This is the FIGHT that must be won over our OWN lower self…

and yes…cultivating the chi energy through the chakras when doing SLT, for example…IS ONE WAY of taking a step in the direction UPWARDS…but beware…when using the intense Power that is possible to achieve through martial arts unwisely and unjustly - Karmic Retribution will come one’s way - at some point in time.

Originally posted by Phenix

http://www.drstandley.com/chakras_05.shtml

That’s why Chinese parents always say to their kids that “if you tell lies you will lose a tooth”. This is actually relates to the 5th Chakra - … lying causes cavities.

Re: THE SECRET DOCTRINE

Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun

This is the FIGHT that must be won over our OWN lower self…

And only then A master is born and living is meaningfull.

Life is not about endulging in power, but contribute what one has even if it is just a pice of thin bread for the poor and less fortune.

Siu Lien Tau is about raising hundreds and thousands of masters and masters who contribute to a warm spring time in human race to come…

Who never lost? Who never fair? But that is no longer important.
Because One has seen the sun rises. The forth (heart) chakra— air, spaceous, infinite space for everyone, embrace------ compassionate.

Punch sources from the heart.
Compassionate sources from the heart chakra, it is invincible.

some dream thoughts.