http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/02/21/missing.reporter/index.html
Very sad.
Hey I know what to do, let’s start a p i s sing and moaning about George Bush. Seriously we should try to understand these people.
I have about as much compassion for their cause as I do for the ants I accidentally step on.
That is so sad…Daniel Pearl was a true hero.
Very sad, but not unexpected. Terrorist kidnapping scum.
Pearl was a victim, not a hero. Let’s not confuse the two concepts.
OK, I’m deleting what I originally posted.
Rogue, if you want to attack others for their political belief, could ya do it on the political thread that started it, as opposed to a thread on the tragic death of a journalist? (especially since most journalists don’t agree with George W.'s politics anyway-remember, liberal media?)
This is the nicer version of what I originally posted.
Myself, I wish journalists were considered untouchable, like red cross. Unfortunately, they’re apparently not.
Tragic waste.
They shoot rabid dogs, don’t they?
These terrorist animals wouldn’t give a hoot in h*ll if journalists were “untouchable” like Red Cross workers or not. Given the opportunity, some of them will kill any American they can, at any time, in any way.
They HATE us. Don’t you understand that simple fact? They HATE us and don’t care anything about who is innocent or who is guilty. In their eyes, all Westerners–and especially ALL Americans–are open game.
They’re not going to change their minds and you’re not going to be able to reason with them. Ever.
That’s why they must die. Because, buddy, if it comes down to them or my family, then it’s just gonna have to be THEM. Trust me, the sun will still come up in the East and the world will still turn and the human race will continue to advance after we kill and wipe all these rabid animals from the face of the earth.
They just aren’t that important to the historical movement of a civilization that wants to live in peace with the other peoples of the world. Nobody misses a rabid dog. Well, except maybe Old Yeller…
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Sorry to ewallace and Stranger, my jab wasn’t aimed at you two.
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KC: Sadly for Mr Pearl he didn’t get the memo that the rules of the game had changed. “Hi Mr. Mullah? Yes I’d like to talk over your connections to al Qeda and how you guys are laundering money. Meet you in some dark and lonely place? Great I’ll be there”. Unfortunatly that’s pretty much how it went down.
Look, these guys aren’t Hamas, these thugs play rougher and for keeps, that is why the picture was posted as a subtle reminder to those too thick headed to get the point. These are not Nationalists trying to make a point, or win freedom for their oppressed country, these are animals on a crusade to make the world over in their insane vision. If Geraldo can get it, why not the rest of the news world? -
Budokan,These animals will be hunted down. And exterminated like the ants under ewallaces feet.
Another tragedy
This is the worst news of a long time, simply because this man’s death served no purpose. Why kill a man with no power? Why hold him hostage? How is this supposed to further your cause.
For once, I think I’m in complete agreement with the hawks on this one. These guys should be smoked out and then erased. I’d love to see these kidnappers hang in the Hague like the last of the Third Reich.
I just can’t understand what leads people to think like this, be they members of the Bader-Meinhoff gang, IRA, Kurdish Liberation Army, Jihaad, etc.. How is killing an innocent person going to turn the world to your cause? All it’ll do is give the other side the justification for your death. Not that I feel sorry for these chumps now or ever, but the “logic” behind all such acts just boggles my mind.
My prayers go to the widow and her unborn child. I can’t imagine growing up without knowing my father, nor can I imagine his widow’s grief. In Pace Requiescat, Mr. Pearl.
Actually rogue I took your post as complete sarcasm. Saying lets understand them and then a link to the wtc building. I figured you meant to say fuk em.
It’s not about turning the West to their cause, it’s about getting the West to stay out of their way.
Badguys: Iran, Sudan and various militantly orthodox Islamists groups like the Wahabs.
Their goal: To establish a Caliphate that includes East Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.
What stands in their way, Isreal, Egypt, US, England, Italy and as wild cards Iraq & Pakistan.
Strategy: Destabilize the non-Islamic governments of countries with large Moslem populations and foster a Islamists (rather than nationalists) revolution.
Tactics: Assasinations, terrorism and direct armed struggle.
Future Internal Problems: Shiite Iran wants to run the Caliphate but so do the Sunni Wahabs.
I don’t recall saying these guys SHOULDN’T be stamped out. In fact, I never said that. I just find it offensive to use another’s death as an excuse to push forward political views. If memory serves correctly, a few of you don’t like it when gun control advocates use accidental deaths by firearms to push stricter gun control.
These guys should be stamped out. Thouroughly. And Rogue, I didn’t state the rules had changed. Journalists are always in danger from such regimes.
You have valid points on these matters, I’m just stating that this is not the thread for this argument. I’d be glad to discuss this on one of the two threads going right now that directly relate to these issues, as opposed to a thread about the loss of an individual, not our political views.
And budo, I didn’t ever argue for reasoning with them. Most of my previous arguments were for adjusting our foreign policy so that we would no longer help create conditions that would foster such groups.
Pearl’s death served no purpose. But then neither did the innocent lives lost in the WTC attacks.
What I can’t understand is, if you know what these animals are like, why in the world would you go to meet them in a dark alley…? Sure, I understand all about journalistic integrity; I do have a degree in Journalism although I never worked professionally in the field. But, shouldn’t good old common sense come into play as well somewhere down the line…?
All in all, it’s very sad, but not unexpected. Still, his death along with the deaths of the innocents in the WTC should be avenged.
BTW, Rogue, your last post is interesting(the enemy, their goals, etc.) Its not hard to picture the motivation, as everyone wants to be a super-power.
Re: Another tragedy
Originally posted by raving_limerick
I just can’t understand what leads people to think like this, be they members of the Bader-Meinhoff gang, IRA, Kurdish Liberation Army, Jihaad, etc.. How is killing an innocent person going to turn the world to your cause?
I think a lot of it has to do with drawing media attention to get the world to focus on their sorry ass cause. They understand that their actions will bring tons of media coverage. This is by no means placing blame on the media.
Hey Ralek, how would you use BJJ in a situation where you had 4 or 5 very mean fundementalists with submachine guns?
Did anyone else hear that he had his throat cut? I could have sworn I heard that on Fox News early this morning.
Does anyone see any major difference between these Islamic Terrorists and people like the Arian (sp?) Nation?
JWT
KC, this is about Pearl and what he was going after. The people that had him killed were under investigation here in the US, one of their compounds is here in VA and a big one is in CA. When 9/11 happened resources were moved from them to bin Laden and al Qeda. Turns out that Pearl had found a thread connecting the two groups and was investigating the connection himself. My opinion is that they kidnapped and murdered Pearl as a warning to other journalists to back off, the reason for the video.
JWT,
The only difference I see between the two is that the aryan nation is in a society that does not, for the most part, openly support their cause or turn a blind eye on major operations.
Otherwise its the same “fundamentalist” crap. If our fundamentalists had similar power, I’ll bet you you’d see a lot more nasty stuff happening here.
Rogue,
I already know that, or at least that was my assumption as well.