On Topic ??? Ryu you should like this one!!!.

I’m 20-30 pounds,and 4-6 inches Bigger then you;
I grab you buy the scruff of your coat"right below the front of your collar,2-4 inches below the top of the zipper lining".
Two things you can expect:
a)For me to headbutt you.
b)Slam you agianst a wall,lifting you onto your toes.You should expect a Barrage of blows
of the variety:a headbutt smashing the back of your head from the mashing of your face.Horizontal hockey type fists would follow with a probable claw thrust agian mashing the back of your head agianst the wall setting you off balance"on your toes".Finished with Horizontal elbow smashes to your temple=a logikal footsweep finished with multiple stomping actions.

During above scenario!,give me some counters?

two in my style

when your grabbed you can step back into a horse and drop a vertical elbow to the pressure point inside opponents elbow,then flow into a same arm vertical fist to his nose then follow up.
or you can drop back in horse and use a chopping/swinging motion around his bicep/elbow
and flow into a same hand groin backfist or hammer,then follow up.
If you cant step back you can step out into a sidebow stance and your rear hand wraps around the closest hand,while your lead hand is in a fist but the thumb sticks out resting on the second knuckle of your index finger.
jab that thumb into throat while rear arm hooks and you sidestep,Then lead hand hooks outside the elbow and wipes while turning to a opposite sidebowstance and your rear hand uppercuts the shortribs,then follow up.

Answers! for your style?.
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  1. the moment you place two hands on my collar, you’ll feel the heel of my palm striking your throat.

2.the moment you hands touch my collar is when you feel my fist coming up under your jaw.

3.my shin to your groin and my heel palm to you chin.

  1. thrusting fingers to your eyes with my other hand pushing your chest

  2. a stomp kick to your chin and a fish hook to your mouth.

  3. an elbow to your jaw, a push to your throat.

and on and on it goes. You see the first mistake was tying up both your hands and letting mine be free. :smiley:

nasty stuff i guess, but hey! you started it hahahahahaha.

anyway,

peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links

nice

keep posting people

Hey Diego, is that Hop Gar or Mantis? :smiley: :wink: . Anyhow, expect this:

  1. moment you try to grab me, I throw a reverse finger stab into your eyes.

  2. You can expect a broken leg right at the knee

  3. Expect a churn-why-kurn style ape strike straight up through your head, takin out your nose in the process.

Zvika

“He’s not dead, 'es resting! Well if 'e’s resting, I’ll wake him up! 'Ello Mr. Polly Parrot…” -Monty Python, Dead Parrot Sketch

taking off your head haha

you crazy yo

Well it would work, no? I think so! :smiley: :wink: :slight_smile:

Zvika

“He’s not dead, 'es resting! Well if 'e’s resting, I’ll wake him up! 'Ello Mr. Polly Parrot…” -Monty Python, Dead Parrot Sketch

1)the moment your hands touch my collar i’d do a spinning back kick

  1. the moment your hands touch my collar i’d cry like a little girl

___________________________________________________________________________ “I’m just trying to lull you into a genuine sense of security!”

Fish of Fury

lol. good one
“i’d do a spinning back kick”

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Depends on the extension of the arms grabbing me. If they are almost fully extended (as they would be when pushing you into a wall) then I like to slap a palm fast and hard into each elbow joint while jam kicking the knee. That elbow slap really f**king hurts. It feels like you’re about to get your arms broken at the elbow (obviously) but all it does it push the joint a little bit far. So no legal problems from breaking two arms. And since it’s just a slap in every case I’ve used it ('cos it is a safe sparring technique assuming it is done properly) the person feels their joints bending backwards, and instinctively pushes their joints back to where they’re meant to be. They receive no resistance because your hands have already left the area & it tends to put them a little off balance. Then as they’re reacting to the elbow pain the jam kick hits them in the knee.
A little variation I like immediately after palm slapping is to go over the arm/s (the palm comes up under or off to the side) and grab the arm/s and pull them into the kick. Seems to add a bit of power to the blow. After the kick, I like to improvise… :smiley:
I also like to go right up the centre i.e. groin knee into throat strike into straight punchto nose. But that’s just me :cool:

“Forfeit the game
Before somebody else takes you out of the frame
And puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
You can’t run the race
The pace is too fast,
You just won’t last!”

I’ve actually got a poster of the Wooden dummy form & I think that simultaneous elbow jam/kick thing is in it. Since I’ve never used a WD (except for stretching on a friend’s) I’m not sure. I’ll see if I can find a picture & post it. Am I right, any Wing Chunners?

“Forfeit the game
Before somebody else takes you out of the frame
And puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
You can’t run the race
The pace is too fast,
You just won’t last!”

When your hands touch my collar. Left hand covers your right wrist(while right leg moves back a step), my right hand rakes your eyes, right leg breaks or seriously injures your knee.

Or I could just jab your throat with a biu jee strike.

Quickly grab the inside of your left wrist and forearm smash yer left elbow.

Resistance not withstanding, because it’s alot asier to say it.

Fish,

Crying may work, but i dont know about the kicking.


“I AM EFFECTIVNESS”

i think we all know that the answer to this question lies in spitting.

Free thinkers are dangerous!

Yes indeed I do like this one.

As soon as you grab my collar, I headbutt you, followed by knees to the groin, elbows, and fists.

As soon as you grab my collar, I clinch with you, pick you up and bodyslam you onto the ground.

As soon as you grab my collar, I finger jab you in the eyes.

As soon as you grab my collar, I break your balance and use ANY of the judo throws I’ve gotten good with :smiley:

Let’s see,
seoi nage,
uchimata,
ogoshi,
osoto gari
ashi barai
ouchi gari
kouchi gari,

etc etc… and so forth… :smiley:

But I gotta make sure I train em with resistence before I know I can do em.
:wink:

Ryu

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

straight blast kajukenbo has that kick

the leg then steps down and the palms cup the ears,then the thumbs gouge into the eyes stretch the head back and spit"jk"press your opponents head back and headbutt then right and left elbow horizontal smash.

goodgood

Now what if that first headbutt hit,then what would happen,what would you do after the shock of the first strike!!?

If we got hit first?

For me, when I get hit or hurt (I know from experience) I immediately clinch, fire back, etc.
Clinching though is my first reaction.

Ryu

“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”

i know what you mean although im not that experienced

when you get hit you go primal and instinctively/intuitively"your gonna get your a$$ kicked"want to clinch.

also if your on your toes headbutted agianst a wall,what are traditional counters in your guys method.

I honestly don’t know exactly what I would do. I can think of many things to do but I really couldn’t say which ones I’d do.

Things I have done or would use would be finger tips to the hollow in your throat, use your grip on my clothes to help with a wrist lock, palm to your face or maybe even just go limp and see if you could hold 185 pounds of dead weight. After any initial move the rest would depend upon success and your reaction.

As far as the head butt goes it depends upon if your more stunned than I am. I have seen guys just about knock themselves out head butting a heavy bag.

[i]Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society.

The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." [/i]

If he’s close, headbutt, followed by plum and and a series of straight knees and elbows, followed by a throw.

same if he was further back, only my method of breaking his hold would be different. I would simultaneously smack one arm down and the other under the elbow, knocking it upwards. Depending on how high the upward going arm goes, I may be able to duck under the arm and either throw, choke or run.

there are a number of chin na techs that can be used in this situation also and followed by strikes.

Am I near a wall or anything I can ram his head into?

"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn’t mean I’m serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair