# new to the board **URL:** \ **Category:** Kung Fu Forum\ **Created:** [February 13, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694 "2008-02-13T06:22:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![teetsao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@teetsao](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/teetsao)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/1 "2008-02-13T06:22:21Z")
hello, i am new to the board and wanted to introduve myself. i study kung fu,kali and muay thai. i do not post much but try to learn from others posts.my main feild of study is iron skills.i hope to learn alot from you guys,and be able to contribute something worthwhile to the forum. i am the one with hair. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSYuOr\_zfYw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSYuOr_zfYw) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqD0IecjOjk&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqD0IecjOjk&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![SifuAbel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sifuabel/32/45_2.png) [@SifuAbel](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/SifuAbel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/2 "2008-02-13T09:08:16Z")
thick skin required Welcome to the most fruitless endeavor in martial arts, the message board. 😃 Take everything with a grain of salt. You are GUARANTEED to find somebody here you will find to be a total dweeb, punk, idiot, or tool. Any of those in my sig are perfect examples. There are some Lotus’ in the mud, just dig deep. enjoy… ---
**Author:** ![jow\_yeroc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/jow_yeroc/32/810_2.png) [@jow\_yeroc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/jow_yeroc)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/3 "2008-02-13T15:09:20Z")
Welcome to the forum. I liked your vids, thanks for posting. ---
**Author:** ![Takuan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/takuan/32/780_2.png) [@Takuan](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Takuan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/4 "2008-02-13T15:26:21Z")
[QUOTE=SifuAbel;842200] Take everything with a grain of salt. You are GUARANTEED to find somebody here you will find to be a total dweeb, punk, idiot, or tool. [/quote] MMA RULLEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Oh wait, what? 😛 Welcome OP! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jow\_yeroc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/jow_yeroc/32/810_2.png) [@jow\_yeroc](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/jow_yeroc)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/5 "2008-02-13T15:32:40Z")
Oh and also i believe there is another member with the same name but spells it different. tiet sau or sow maybe? ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/6 "2008-02-13T15:49:03Z")
Still can’t stop can you? Rudy Abel and his followers are mentally unstable, lying, pieces of garbage that always find a way to never back up their threats and tough talk. Oh, here is Sifu Rudy Abel in action. Watch him tap out in 1:22 and be so gassed out he can’t even stand up! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHkxF7658pM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHkxF7658pM) ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/7 "2008-02-13T15:50:17Z")
[QUOTE=teetsao;842191]my main feild of study is iron skills.[/QUOTE] By iron skills do you mean like ‘iron palm’? ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/8 "2008-02-13T15:58:38Z")
[QUOTE=1bad65;842277]By iron skills do you mean like ‘iron palm’?[/QUOTE] Iron skills refers to any conditioning to make the body harder or tougher. Dropping a medicine ball into your stomach, for example. ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/9 "2008-02-13T15:59:28Z")
Don’t forget Iron Crotch 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lama\_Pai\_Sifu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lama_pai_sifu/32/603_2.png) [@Lama\_Pai\_Sifu](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Lama_Pai_Sifu)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/10 "2008-02-13T16:02:39Z")
[QUOTE=1bad65;842276]Rudy Abel and his followers are mentally unstable, lying, pieces of garbage that always find a way to never back up their threats and tough talk. Oh, here is Sifu Rudy Abel in action. Watch him tap out in 1:22 and be so gassed out he can’t even stand up! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHkxF7658pM[/QUOTE]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHkxF7658pM%5B/QUOTE%5D) Hey..enough is enough already. I can appreciate that you have a beef with Rudy. WE ALL KNOW IT. But it is unfair to hijack all these threads just to repeat the same things you’ve said already, don’tcha think? Have your “I hate Rudy” thread and post on it all day. You guys can dig at each other on it until the second coming. But please, please let it go on the regular threads, okay? BTW, I am not taking anyone’s side here. But I must say this - you ragged on Rudy in anticipation about his not showing up for the fight. Then he showed. He gets mad props in my book for taking the challenge and showing up. Okay, he didn’t win…we all lose fights. But for heaven’s sake man, let it go! He showed up, he fought and it didnt’ go his way. I’m sure he’ll take what he can from it and become a better fighter in the future. You don’t like Rudy’s mouth…so be it. I don’t like what everyone says here, and I’m sure they don’t like everything I say/said here either. But it comes to a point where you just have to let it go. Believe me..whatever point you have been trying to communicate to the board, we have heard you. Be a stand up guy and let it go. Just some man-to-man advice, do what you will with it. But in the interest of better conversations on here, please rethink this. 🙂 Peace And now back to our regularly scheduled programming. ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/11 "2008-02-13T16:07:02Z")
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;842279]Iron skills refers to any conditioning to make the body harder or tougher. Dropping a medicine ball into your stomach, for example.[/QUOTE] There is a good thread at Bullshido about ‘jow’ and a guy testing it (not a true scientific test IMO) to see if it indeed toughens his hands. ---
**Author:** ![MasterKiller](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/masterkiller/32/407_2.png) [@MasterKiller](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/MasterKiller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/12 "2008-02-13T16:09:38Z")
[QUOTE=1bad65;842286]There is a good thread at Bullshido about ‘jow’ and a guy testing it (not a true scientific test IMO) to see if it indeed toughens his hands.[/QUOTE] Most Jow is basically Chinese “Ben Gay.” ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/13 "2008-02-13T16:09:49Z")
Lama, like I have said repeatedly; I’m not gonna start sh1t, but I will respond to Rudy and his ilk messing with me. HE STARTED IT, AGAIN If it gets on your nerves, go to the source and stop it. And as anyone with eyes and basic reading comprehension skills can see, he ONCE AGAIN started in on me. ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/14 "2008-02-13T16:10:49Z")
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;842288]Most Jow is basically Chinese “Ben Gay.”[/QUOTE] That’s about what I believe. That and placebo effecs. But the thread at BS is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Lama\_Pai\_Sifu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/lama_pai_sifu/32/603_2.png) [@Lama\_Pai\_Sifu](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Lama_Pai_Sifu)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/15 "2008-02-13T16:12:36Z")
You are right. I reread his post. I see your point. Hey Rudy, please read my above message. I’m sure you’re \*\*\*\*ed, but please try to man-up and be done with it. It no longer serves any purpose. Peace. ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/16 "2008-02-13T16:17:05Z")
[QUOTE=1bad65;842291]That’s about what I believe. That and placebo effecs. But the thread at BS is interesting.[/QUOTE] There is Jow and then there is Jow. Sad but true. And the IP stuff is not typical Jow. Then there is different types of IP jow depending on what stage you are at. ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/17 "2008-02-13T16:19:52Z")
The jow being discussed on BS is Dale Dugas’ stuff. ---
**Author:** ![RD\_S\_Alias\_1A](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/rd_s_alias_1a/32/49_2.png) [@RD\_S\_Alias\_1A](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/RD_S_Alias_1A)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/18 "2008-02-13T16:21:05Z")
There is a good thread at Bullshido about ‘jow’ and a guy testing it (not a true scientific test IMO) to see if it indeed toughens his hands. Reply] U got a link? ---
**Author:** ![sanjuro\_ronin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/sanjuro_ronin/32/793_2.png) [@sanjuro\_ronin](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/sanjuro_ronin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/19 "2008-02-13T16:22:27Z")
[QUOTE=1bad65;842297]The jow being discussed on BS is Dale Dugas’ stuff.[/QUOTE] Which one? I use his IP stuff and it is Top Notch. Have used it for 2 years now. ---
**Author:** ![1bad65](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/1bad65/32/813_2.png) [@1bad65](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/1bad65)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694/20 "2008-02-13T16:25:54Z")
Here is the BS thread on the test: [http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64970](http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64970) [Next page](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-to-the-board/42694.md?page=2)