# New Southern Praying Mantis Site

**URL:** <https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332>\
**Category:** Southern Chinese Kung Fu\
**Created:** [May 17, 2005, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332 "2005-05-17T10:13:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Phu\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e274bd/32.png) [@Phu\_Le](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Phu_Le)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/1 "2005-05-17T10:13:42Z")

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Go to:

[http://www.TongLong.co.uk](http://www.TongLong.co.uk)

It’s only just gone up with a bunch of new content, plenty of Photos of Ip Shui, Ip Chee Keung…

Videos, of Southern Mantis incl clips of Sifu Paul Whitrods training videos.

It’s a nice clean site with content being it’s main focus.

Go take a look,

Phu Le

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/2 "2005-05-17T12:44:15Z")

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thanks

Thanks for posting that Phu, I was getting round to posting the site but you beat me to it :P.

I have quite a lot of footage on tape (jook lum, chow gar, chu gar) that i will be putting up time permitting. Just takes a while to capture from vhs to pc and edit it, and then convert that for the web while also thinking about webspace, bandwidth and quality! and juggling training, work, famly, friends gf..oh and more training.. :D.

But primarily i want it to be a resource that focuses on content (articles, images, video) for hakka / mantis / those people interested in learning more.

It would be nice if other forum members could contribute if they wanted. Writing articles about their family style / history / training / their training in mantis how they got into it? Just some ideas.

Donating images and clips would be cool!! If anyone wants to help / is interested / can be bothered 😉 … please do email me [mantis@tonglong.co.uk](mailto:mantis@tonglong.co.uk) … also if anyone can mention some southern mantis links i can reciprocate with that i dont have already.

Would be great to get some info / footage of mantis arts like iron ox , chi gar, 13 roads, beggars hand too…

Regards

Nish

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**Author:** ![One\_Finger\_Zen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/one_finger_zen/32/491_2.png) [@One\_Finger\_Zen](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/One_Finger_Zen)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/3 "2005-05-18T19:16:22Z")

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heeeeey!!

UK brothers!! How are you? good to see some UK talent!

Cool site by the way!

Peace out

OFZ

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**Author:** ![Infrazael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a183cd/32.png) [@Infrazael](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Infrazael)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/4 "2005-05-19T20:56:47Z")

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That’s a really cool website, I’m glad Southern Praying Mantis not have a place where theories and forms are explained nicely.

Great site!!!

–Infrazael

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/5 "2005-05-20T18:16:19Z")

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Southern Mantis Site

Thanks :), appreciate the compliments. Added some new clips today from Si Gung Ip Sui’s birthday in 2002 Hong Kong.

Glad you like the site and the info…more to come!

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**Author:** ![Infrazael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a183cd/32.png) [@Infrazael](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Infrazael)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/6 "2005-05-20T18:34:52Z")

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One of my Sihings does Southern Praying Mantis too, although I’m not sure if it’s Chow Gar or Jook Lum or some other. . . .

Fu-Pow, doesn’t Kevin do Jook Lum SPM? (if you get this message).

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**Author:** ![travelsbyknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@travelsbyknight](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/travelsbyknight)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/7 "2005-05-22T05:42:24Z")

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whitrod tapes

No offense to anyone…

But Paul Whitrods tapes are very basic…and wayyy too expensive. If you aren’t getting shown, the stuff he’s showing in his tapes, in your own kung fu school then you need to find a new one.

I’d like to hear some other people’s opinions.

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**Author:** ![Jook\_Lum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jook\_Lum](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jook_Lum)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/8 "2005-05-23T04:45:12Z")

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Hello Kismet,

As i mentioned on another forum, well done on your spm site and i look  
forward to what will be added in the future.

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/9 "2005-05-23T12:08:24Z")

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thanks

Thanks Jook Lum, much appreciated.

I am in the process of capturing some footage of USA Jook Lum Mantis stuff from vhs, it would be of interest to you i think. I will let you know when i get round to putting it online.

Regards

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**Author:** ![Jook\_Lum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jook\_Lum](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jook_Lum)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/10 "2005-05-24T04:36:55Z")

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Very cool, I look forward to seeing it.

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/11 "2005-05-24T22:02:27Z")

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Just added the full 6 minute section of the BBC’s Mind, Body & Kick Ass Moves documentary on Southern Chow Gar Praying Mantis Kung Fu featuring Sifu Ip Chee Keung and Si Gung Ip Sui. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@bong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bong)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/12 "2005-05-24T22:02:27Z")

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Who’s Jook Lum?

> [@kismet](#):
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> Thanks Jook Lum, much appreciated.
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> I am in the process of capturing some footage of USA Jook Lum Mantis stuff from vhs, it would be of interest to you i think. I will let you know when i get round to putting it online.
> 
> Regards

Who’s stuff? Poo Yee, Mark Foon, The Chin’s?

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**Author:** ![phoenixdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@phoenixdog](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/phoenixdog)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/13 "2005-05-26T00:10:21Z")

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Is southern mantis rooted in hsing i?

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**Author:** ![Jook\_Lum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jook\_Lum](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/Jook_Lum)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/14 "2005-05-26T03:21:46Z")

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Hello Bong,

I looked but you are not registered, i was going to send you a PM. So on here  
i will just say that i spent most time with Mark Foon and other time with other Jook  
Lum teachers from the same Pai.

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**Author:** ![David](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/david/32/32_2.png) [@David](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/David)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/15 "2005-05-26T12:25:08Z")

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> [@phoenixdog](#):
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> Is southern mantis rooted in hsing i?

No, there’s no connection beyond hsing yi also being a short-hand internal style.

Rgds,  
David

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**Author:** ![kejia\_nu\_ren](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.kungfumagazine.com/kejia_nu_ren/32/571_2.png) [@kejia\_nu\_ren](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kejia_nu_ren)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/16 "2005-05-26T14:58:02Z")

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Hakka mantis in NYC?

does anyone have information on Hakka styles of southern mantis, &/or if there are any teachers of southern mantis in NYC? i’d be interested in checking them out and learning more about southern mantis firsthand. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/17 "2005-06-08T12:16:34Z")

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Does anyone know the URL for Sifu Norman or Milton Chins website? Do they have one?

I dont know if this helps the last poster, it might be old…i found this while trying to find the website:

Jook Lum Gee Tong Long Pai  
Southern Praying Mantis  
100 Hester Street  
New York New York  
Sifu Norman Chin  
(718) 389-7568  
[none@none.net](mailto:none@none.net)

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**Author:** ![bong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@bong](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/bong)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/18 "2005-06-08T16:07:02Z")

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what to bring

Bring cash.

Lots of it. 😉😃🆒

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**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/u/kismet)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.kungfumagazine.com/t/new-southern-praying-mantis-site/32332/19 "2005-12-15T12:04:42Z")

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Florida based SPM

Should coming over to Florida in January and was looking to visit any SPM schools / classes. Anyone know of any i can visit if all goes to plan? Things to do and places to visit may also help :).

Thanks
